Lutetium
*either
if you mind your safety precautions, you can do quite alot safely. for example: me and some people at the local hackerspace made RFNA for decapping chips, which would be pretty dangerous if we hadn't thought out containment,PPE and waste handling
I'v read a bit into x-ray safety a while ago. correct me if I'm wrong but shielding and distance is key. And it's surprising how little shielding small sources such as a dental xray actually need
yeah... i think the felling is mutual..
@Ben Krasnow do you still have that DeLorean, and if so isn't it time to do a project with it? Alternate power source, self driving AI, or ?
@Ben Krasnow I see the projects you work on that make it to your channel.. and I know how I'm like with projects. I can hardly imagine the quantity of things you have on the future to do or back burner list.
Mr Fusion!!
you know, thinking about it, so many people have this problem
I wonder about the actual logistics of a waste management project
Noel, for both my day job and Applied Science stuff, I like to keep things in my head. I don't do much external tracking with tools.
For every completed thing, there's probably a dozen in various states of being done, started, not started but researched, etc..
maybe somethhing like those mycology things where they grow oyster mushrooms off oil spills
@Ben Krasnow you do a lot of hand written notes as yo ugo?
and then use that as fertilizer since it's not really good for human consumption but it's ok at 3-4rth hand to get those calories from oil
Damnit
Ben: What do you find interesting from DIY the community? the different projects that people make? Are Art projects interesting to you you?
Ben, what do you see as the next steps to work on to get the plating to produce a more usable product? Do you think it's largely recipe tweaking, or more post-processing, or just unknown?
@Christian yes, they're helpful. But generating as little as possible and checking the shielding work are important too. Would advise buying an x-ray sensor before making x-rays.
^^^
Krux, it's true! Some things never make it to the channel. But since I was shorter on time since starting at Verily, I try to "economize" such that most of my work on evenings gets put into a video (eventually) --- sometimes takes years.
I agree with that!
@Ben Krasnow for the sake of getting these thoughts out of your head I highly recommend David Allen's "Getting Things Done" information management algorithm, basically his whole book could be summed up in the flowchart graphic, you can pair that with something like evernote as a way to keep your 'reference' materials text searchable, and it works as a repository you can put any sort of media to
My final micrometeorite plug is the facebook page of OG-micrometeorite hunter Jon Larsen in case anyone wants to see what these things look like: https://www.facebook.com/micrometeorites/ There are tons of high quality photographs in there
Mike, I think the most important thing in the DIY community, is building a sense of agency and control over a person's environment and life. It's a while mindset of positivity that the early years of Make magazine captured well.
particularly good if you use a 'web clipper' extension to save pages (articles, news stories, etc) directly to your evernote repository
makes every cool reddit find permanently text searchable if you use it, the trick is to use it, lol
love too spread positivity and a love for power acquisition amongst the upper class
Spencer, I don't know. It could just be parameter tuning, or the whole thing might be a dead end :)
@krux @Micah Elizabeth Scott the "dumping stuff down the drain" comment is pretty illustrative: take 3D printer resin. Toxic as hell and super under-respected. But "dumping down the drain" isn't really a practical issue until it's popular enough that LOTS of people are doing it, AND a significant number aren't respecting the safety aspect. Case in point - if everybody played around with making explosives at home, there'd be a whole lot more neighbor-caused fire and destruction, which is precisely why that kind of thing is rightly illegal.
Extending that to the likes of X-rays and chemistry, certainly I'm a fan of promoting respect for the various risks to prevent it from becoming a real issue.
gree @Ben Krasnow re:early make and I always felt that was an extension of the old Mother Earth News
Thanks Ben! Sometimes, that's not easy to follow.. Any support groups!! :)
@Ben Krasnow : one thing i've always noticed is that a lot of citizen 'science' seems to be about expermenting but no one actually seems to bother with proper scientific method: statistics, hypothesis testing, keeping detailed logs etc. Do you think that should get more attention?
is making explosives at home even illegal?
@Ben Krasnow , any book recommendations?
second that
"science" is 99% of the time a brand rather than a method here
also yes it's illegal to make explosives at home, regulated by ATF
Positive!!
Stay Positive!
@me, the ATF says "Yes"
Micah I recommend science literacy before making bitchy statements about science
You should make explosives at work, with a propper risk assessment
scientific method FTW indeed - I've seen some outrageous claims of 'dust sensors' packaged as 'citizen' 'science'
> Persons who manufacture explosives for their personal, non-business use (e.g., making fireworks to set off on your own property or mixing binary explosive components to remove a stump in your own yard) are not required to have a manufacturer’s license. However, no person may ship, transport, cause to be transported, or receive explosive materials unless such person holds a license or permit.
yeah
but "explosive" is a very limited definition
meaning, you can make your own gunpowder
but not anything STRONGER than that
I think theres a large group of ppl who use "science" to mean engineering/experimenting
yep
Peter, yes. And to be fair, I don't really consider myself a scientist. I am an engineer, and so the goal is not to create new knowledge, but apply existing principles in new and useful ways.
Kendall: what do i have to read before i'm qualified to complain about the science-flavored branding of random folks posting "science" videos on youtube
eh? you need to know the difference between science and branding
Micah and Peter are saying the same basic thing here, from what I can see
yeah there's tards calling their dumb notions 'science' too, that's why the WHOLE IDEA is that it's a method for HOW you know shit
I like the "It's not science till you wrote stuff down"
branding is just applied marketing :)
so you can TEST it
Applied Science? :)
yeah applying not discovering new
he's fine
"oh that means I can do X"
@Ben Krasnow: i really like how you reflect that in your channel name, using the brand but being clear about it being related but not the same ("applied")
i am aware of what science is, i am trying to make a distinction between what ideally the "citizen science" movement would be producing and what it actually is
oh glad the arbitrator of what is science is here
@Kendall Meade none of that contradicts with what Micah says, so what your issue is kinda puzzling
Or is it Applied Engineering? just kidding...
it would just be cool if there was some kind of accepted trend toward responsible citizen science: something that acknowledges the power of carefully recorded data, and the impacts of any experimentation on the local and broader environmnt. basic stuff obviously, but also stuff that is often left off in an effort to seem cool.
@Micah Elizabeth Scott :i've seen an interesting split between "citizen science" as in crowdsourcing data collection for scientists, citizens doing scientific investigations of issues (for example, HAMs finding out interference sources) and its maker interpretation of messing around with experimental $field stuff.
micah are you against joyrides?
Ben: I am curious, do you have have family members that understand some of the things that you do?
so you're making sweeping and meaningless generalizations here, yeah it would be great if every would-be scientist could be part of some open source CIA for scientists, but it seems an unlikely thing to expect
I think it's also fair to acknowledge that a lot of this is entertainment. I hope that my channel teaches things, and gets people thinking, but it's really a YouTube channel, and the goal is pretty much to have people spend time in an enjoyable way, and pick up a few facts that may help them later.
@Micah Elizabeth Scott I wonder - when you talk about citizen science, what's the image you have in your head? Scientific method executed by citizens, or citizens participating in distributed collection efforts where a more centralized group of researchers are doing the "science"?
Or like me, they are largely clueless..
@Ben Krasnow one thing I wanted to ask you about your Hypercentric optics video do you know of these tube-projector lenses function on their own? I remember taking a projector apart and the cooling(?) liquid that couples the lens to the tube seemed to be part of the optical path
alex: all of the above really
Like Electro-Boom.. I see you follow him...
> In their footsteps follow today’s citizen scientists, a relatively small cohort compared to the great numbers of professional scientists that universities churn out year after year. But where these credentialed practitioners are often hyper-focused on a particular sub-field in a highly specialized discipline, the citizen scientist enjoys more freedom to explore the universe, as his or her natural philosopher forebears did. These citizen scientists — many of whom are also traditionally credentialed — are doing important work, and some are even publishing their findings in mainstream journals.
it's interesting that folks go right to assuming i don't know what i'm talking about here
also bitching about "this bieber scientist isn't doing it as good as I would" seems like 1) if you have a point you should go show us what you mean with it rather than 2) attacking the guy we're all here to ask questions of, micah
doesn't sound limited to distributed collection efforts
Ben: just seeing all the tools and what can be done with it is great experience and motivation on dreaming and building one's own lab/experiments
@Micah Elizabeth Scott ha, seems like @Peter Bosch might have beat me to the thought
Ben: do you like his channel? very entertaining!
@Ben Krasnow I like that you show how you got to what you accomplished.. covering a lot of the failures that led up to the eventual final result, and covering what else you still need to do.
@Micah Elizabeth Scott Agree and that is a tennant of science. If you do not document sufficiently, in a very short time, it as though never happened. Is a youtube video sufficient documentation - maybe yes, maybe no..
Have you though about doing another tools/tips video? I found some of the tips you had in the two last were really useful
"I tried these things and they didn't work but eventually refined this method that gave me good results"
@Micah Elizabeth Scott : I don't, I actually agree with most of what you've been saying.
OK, folks, our time is up and we seem to have strayed a little far afield. I imagine Ben needs to get back to work, so we'll say a hearty thanks for his time.
Noel: Shariar of youtube Signal Path has excessive amounts of RF equipment - and explains what can be done with the combinations of it
@Micah Elizabeth Scott (mostly just the one)
THANK YOU BEN!
Thanks Ben! We appreciate you spending time with us today
Very informative and entertaining :D
Hi Ben, thanks a lot for your work and time!
Thank you so much Ben
Yeah agreed Shariar is great! Thanks for your time Ben!
Thank Ben!
good luck with project baseline and linking everyone's RNA to their google account, ttyl
thanks ben!
Thx Ben
lol micah
Thanks for being here, Ben
thanks ben!
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