Garrett Scott I'm Garrett Scott, technical marketing engineer at Microchip Technolog, specifically in the 8-bit division
technical marketing engineer : is that technical, marketing, or engineering ?....
@Yann Guidon / YGDES They are indeed complicated beasties. I wound up with a couple of Spartan 3 boards. Just worked out that way. I also picked VHDL over Verilog as a starting point based on what I read about it.
@Yann Guidon / YGDES yes
I am an engineer, working in the marketing department
oh that's not XOR Garrett ?
One question from me: The recent datasheets (since the last 3-4 years :P) for the 8 bit PICS do not describe well the pin circuitry, such as if there are protection diodes (to vdd/gnd) on the pin. Where can I get information on this matter?
I'm Mark Hofmann, a Field Applications Engineer for Microchip.
@Al Williams thanks
Kevin : we might continue in private to keep this channel on topic :-)
@edwin romero is here too
sn't engineering battling all the time with marketing? :-)
@edwin romero and @MarkAtMicrochip !
@Yann Guidon / YGDES I wasn't going to say any more on the topic during the chat.
@Frank Buss Synergy!
That made my day
like marketing promises something that engineering says it's impossible, but I guess good to have an engineer in marketing then
Boian Mitov Hello @Garrett Scott
here's the sheet for discussion:
@Frank Buss One of the nice things about being an engineer at Microchip is that most of the Marketing people either were engineers or have their engineering degree.
sounds like a good idea
So do we pull the questions on the discussion sheet and add them here?
Shulie: So here's a question that a couple of people are interested in. Asked by ido: The modern 8-bit PICs are awesome, but are there plans to update the xc8 compiler to newer C standards, maybe even C++?
makes sense... and this retains the real engineers as customers
and while implementing C++ for XC8, would be nice to release the pro version for free :-)
We can't tell you what's in the works, but we are always looking at the best upgrades we can provide
That would be nice, but I'm willing to pay for C++ support on PIC.
@Frank Buss : What's the point of slow and difficult to program 8 bit microcontrollers (e.g. for PICs, the optimizing C compiler costs a lot of money and has some quirks), if you can get a 32 bit ARM microcontroller like the ATSAMD09C13A for 0.62 EUR, with full optimizing GCC support?
here's a question from
We are not working on a C++ for 8bit PICs, but there is one from a company called Boost which has one. Our recommendation is to select the best-fit architecture for a project, based on needs and requirements that can be identified at the design’s outset. 8bits are very robust with 5V support. Our newer parts are loaded with core independent peripherals, which provide reduced CPU load, thereby dropping power consumption. To get similar performance to our PRO XC8 compiler, you would need to purchase an IAR compiler. To further reduce the barrier of entry to the XC8 PRO compiler. We have released a subscription service at $30/month
is 5V used that much anymore? and for low power, the STM32L0 family is really nice
@Kevin CIPs definitely help reduce the memory burden as well
Hi, so is it going to stay MPLAB for PICs and Atmel Studio for AVRs?
in a low power benchmark they were one of the winners
@Frank Buss Yes, 5V is used a lot in industrial applications. Lots of people like the additional resolution...
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