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Everything PCB with OSH Park Hack Chat Transcript: Part 3

A event log for Everything PCB with OSH Park Hack Chat

Dan and Drew from OSH Park will be talking about everything PCB, from artwork to 2 layer flexible PCB testing and beyond.

lutetiumLutetium 03/02/2018 at 21:170 Comments

Michael Welling says: scripts don't mind being yelled at by the guys at the fab

Dan Sheadel says: > Does OSHPark support (or are they planning to support) chamfering to make edge connectors?

Nope. Turns out our fabs kinda hate doing bevel edges. Because of how the fab processes steps, it also adds a bunch to the panel fab setup costs, so the whole panel cost goes up.

Nick Sayer says: On that topic, though, it would be nice to be able to signal to the penalization code "no tab" spots.

Stephen says: @r miloh alexander asks: can you tell us what sw does OSH park use internally to panelize? How automated is the panelization process? Do you tabs (or mousebite) these batch panel orders or does the fab do this procedure?

Dan Sheadel says: It's also a super rare feauture. For production boards it's handy, but production card edges should also have hard gold (which we don't do_

Stephen Legge says: @Kevin You're thinking of Castellated Edges (http://docs.oshpark.com/tips+tricks/castellation/)

Nick Sayer says: It kinda sucks sometimes when there's a tab *right* under an edge mounted component.

samy kamkar says: @oshpark Important question, any plans on sending more jelly beans out with boards?

morgan says: the most important question

Ted Yapo says: @Nick Sayer sandpaper is your friend. Or a good file.

r miloh alexander says: erp i meant to write "do you tab (or mousebite) the batch panel orders..."

Kevin says: Jelly beans? I never got any jelly beans.

oshpark says: @samy kamkar that was a treat during the winter holiday season... we'll be having more stickers though

Stephen says: @samy kamkar asks what we've all really been here to find out

Michael Welling says: awe

Dan Sheadel says: > On that topic, though, it would be nice to be able to signal to the penalization code "no tab" spots.

Working on this! Processing outlines is somewhat automated: Specifically, our fab does it with a human and some really fancy software on their end that inserts tabs.

My current project is actually doing fully-automated outline detection, mill path routing, and tab placement. I have some prototypes working, but the runtime complexity for bad cases is awful. So, porting it to something faster.

Nick Sayer says: @Ted Yapo Oh, sure, there's workarounds, but it's annoying.

Benchoff says: wait, are we talking about pogs?

Dan Sheadel says: One of the things we plan when this is live is adding the ability to designate no tab zones on an upload.

baldengineer says: no tab zones++

Nick Sayer says: YAAAAY!

oshpark says: @Benchoff yes! we are working on new designs right now :)

Dan Sheadel says: @oshpark Important question, any plans on sending more jelly beans out with boards?

Maybe! We like keeping it kinda seasonal and special.

> wait, are we talking about pogs?

Clearly.

r miloh alexander says: @Dan Sheadel sounds peachy to have DNP tab zones...

Stephen says: With just a few minutes left I want to throw in this statement from @Nick Sayer so the people from OSH Park don't miss it: Not so much a question as a comment: OSHPark is 90% (10% goes to EAGLE) responsible for returning me to a hobby that I abandoned over 30 years ago when I was a teenager. Everything I've designed since then has been entirely because the barriers to getting professionally made PCBs at a reasonable timeframe and budget have gone away.

Dan Sheadel says: <3!

Jasmine Brackett says: :)

Shayna says: aww

baldengineer says: well said

Nick Sayer says: Absolutely true. I was building Heathkits in the 80s, but I tried to make my own PCB at home once and it was a disaster. I gave up for 30+ years.

oshpark says: That is wonderful to here @Nick Sayer We love your projects!

morgan says: (well well, look what just showed up in the mail....)

Nick Sayer says: Thanks, guys! My work looks best in Purple and Gold.

Dan Sheadel says: And they do look stellar. :D

oshpark says:

https://twitter.com/pdp7/status/753397573256294401

TWITTER PDP7

Drew Fustini on Twitter

OSH Park edition of @nwsayer's Crazy Clock https://t.co/S03Lwrj4HP

Read this on Twitter >

oshpark says: Special edition of Nick's crazy clock :)

Jasmine Brackett says: Nice.

Stephen says: And with that let's give a HUGE thank you to @Dan Sheadel and Drew @oshpark for coming on this chat today to talk to us all about your perfect purple PCBS!

Nick Sayer says: Indeed!

Jon Raymond says: Also @oshpark thanks for adding affordable fast shipping to Canada!!

oshpark says: Thank you all!

baldengineer says: Thank you guys

oshpark says: oh yes!

Dan Sheadel says: Oh yeah! We're stoked to have Fedex now.

oshpark says: we have FedEx now

Shayna says: Thanks @Dan Sheadel and @oshpark !

Audi McAvoy says: Yes. Thank you @Dan Sheadel and @oshpark !

Kevin says: I've never made my own PCBs. I didn't want to deal with all those chemicals. I would just use build using perfboards with or without copper on one side. Because of OSHPark I've got some of my newer projects build with real PCBs.

morgan says: Thanks Dew & Dan

oshpark says:

https://docs.oshpark.com/submitting-orders/shipping-information/

OSHPARK

OSH Park Docs ~ Submitting Orders ~ Shipping Information and Turnaround Times

For items purchased at different times (and with different order numbers), we cannot guarantee combined shipping. However, our system will automatically try to combine them into the fastest selected parcel type, as long as they're shipped at the same time.

Read this on Oshpark >

Jac Goudsmit says: Thanks Dan & Drew!

Stephen says: Thank you so much both of you! Great chat!

Nick Sayer says: @Kevin At the time, for me, it was the drill hits. I had a drill press, but I couldn't get anything like the correct spacing for DIP.

oshpark says: @morgan we love the new project you are working. we are junkie for PCB artwork

Jasmine Brackett says: Yep, thank you! It's always great to find out what's happening in OSHpark world

oshpark says: thanks @Stephen and crew!

Kevin says: I don't like using any courier companies for cross-border shipping in to Canada. They often want too much money for customs clearance and brokerage fees.

Dan Sheadel says: Thanks everybody! As always, feel free to shoot us questions on Twitter, Facebook, or on Hackaday here. Drew's always lurking hunting for purple. :)

Carrie Sundra says: Thanks, oshpark!

Nick Sayer says: And, of course, there was no way I was going to get a double-sided design to line up. And no through-plated vias... and on and on. Stuff we now take totally for granted.

morgan says: @oshpark everyone at work is completely blown away, especially with few knowing what a PCB even is

oshpark says: OUr new Fedex International Priority is:

~$15 to North America

~$20 to Australia

~$20-$35 to Europe and Asia

~$25 to Latin America

~$40 to Africa

Kevin says: @Nick Sayer Drilling holes would have been another stumbling block for me. I didn't have access to a drill press.

oshpark says: And in general, we are always happy to answer questions via our support email: support@oshpark.com

morgan says: I decided write-up be damned, here's the #Lampster which woudn't have been possible without a lot of back and forth with OSHPark

oshpark says: like In-N-Out Burger, we do have bit of a secret menu beyond had you see in the cart checkout options

oshpark says: thanks @morganhttps://hackaday.io/project/27788-lampster is a wonderful design

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