Morning.Star
Hey Nintendo. Up to your old tricks, I see.
It used to be quite an honour to be gouged by one of the biggest gaming companies on earth. Its not so much an honour to be gouged by a bunch of hosers whose idea of innovation is to steal off a disabled person and their carer.
Anyone who doesnt recognise Cardware and IO needs their eyes testing, but will I see a penny? Not unless I hire an international lawyer and chase you for it in Kanji, no.
And no, you dont get a painting, it was my and Doc's idea to make everyone play with networked cardboard robotics and social systems. I wasnt going to charge that much either, methinks good luck with spreading my Fu across the lands at the hefty sum of $79.99 for a hacking cardboard box.
That wasnt my idea, I will grant that. But the rest is, inspired and aided by my good friend Doc, and in the Prize last year at that.
Oh you have to be kidding me... Toy-Con. I couldnt have put it better myself.
Would I have sold out and hacked off to Japan to be a modern Geppetto? I guess we'll never find out will we.
One day you may regret this, Nintendo, I'm known for hacking the living daylights out of anything that winds me up.
Luckily for you, your crap costs so much I wouldnt buy a Switch just to enter and win your competition.
Now there's an irony. Everyone knows competitions are a companies way of saying they havent got a clue what to do next. "Ooh, I know, lets have a competition and sell the best idea on how to handle what we just nicked."
Oh Look.
Its Bill Nye, The Science Guy. Guess HE got paid too, he's pretty cheap.
Here's an idea, make it even cheaper. Make it a lot, lot cheaper. Make it packaging cheaper, you twits, that was the whole point.
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Does that mean you are dropping your work on cardware?
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No, not just dropping, but how to proceed is the question.
Unfortunately though as Stuart points out Prior Art is no protection without litigation and thats now out of any individual's range and not just mine. Nintendo now own the concept outright, and any further development I was planning will impinge upon their patents and copyrights.
That's what I'm pissed about, not that they copied me (if they did, a matter of opinion) but that they took the root concept I'm developing and locked it into their revenue stream.
Now they are advertising it on UK TV, and are selling it at comparable prices. $80 for a cardboard kit is insanity, but even if they give it away they can still sue me for doing what I was going to do. The AI component and touch control systems I've designed are heavily mimicked by Nintendo's insertion of their Switch, with its virtual world linked to the cardboard model.
What would you do, as was pointed out what I have is a cardboard kit, clever maybe, but no more. Nintendo have stolen what I am doing, not what I've done. All the mathematics I figured out for balancing is now useless because they own the concept patents for its use and copyrights on its appearance.
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I'd just go ahead and develop what you were gonna do anyway and release it anyway
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Can I just say, let them find a use for#Light Relief XD
I've been insulted and used for 20 years, and its not like I've ever been paid for anything I've done. Forgive me for being indignant about this.
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Guys, guys, I'm not the ogre here. I'm more angry they are charging so much for it.
I'm a conceptual artist; I wanted you guys to play with cardboard robots, and that was my idea. I hope Sony or someone copies them and starts a war that costs them all money.
Its under a Creative Commons License for that reason, and yes I will continue with it when I can, as you may know I've just been coerced into starting and completing other projects and am in a spectacularly bad mood about that and the related reasons I cannot protect my work professionally.
I put my ideas on here so others can take them and use them, or I'd sit on them in the vain hope they'll make me rich one day, jealous of others who think along the same lines as me.
Unfortunately, Labo is copyrighted and patented and belongs conceptually to Nintendo, who will chase anyone who infringes on their 'property'. It doesnt belong to them any more than it does me, when you put it like that, and they are in the wrong for attempting to claim ownership.
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Respectfully, I feel your anger is misplaced here. Cardware is a neat project that brings a lot of ideas to the world of cardboard-based construction, but it's a stretch to claim to inspire _all_ robotics projects that use the material (or in the case of Labo, mash cardboard chassis up with electronic sensors and such). I'm sure there are a ton of examples, but here's one I did in 2015 that I think falls under the same criteria you used to judge Nintendo's stuff: https://hackaday.io/project/3339-neurobytes/log/24377-neuro-uh-arm-also-updated-servo-firmware
More importantly, I feel that getting mad at folks for perceived theft of ideas just isn't a constructive use of your time. And please don't let that stop you from continuing to share projects on this site.
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I'd argue that your system and Labo are similar but significantly different, their system is enabled by the sensors inside the switch electronics (console+joycon) interacting with the folded cardboard ( motion sensors + accel + IMU). While your system embeds electronics within the cardboard, and as far as I know is driven by servos and doesn't do sensing in the same way. While the end result maybe similar I feel both implementations differ significantly. You should still continue you to develop your project and not let this discourage you.
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Do you claim idea ownership on the google cardboard VR cell phone holder too? because that came out 2014 and you and Doc started sharing on this platform in 2016. I think the idea of using cardboard instead of other things is pretty common and people tend to forget there was a time pre 3D printer.
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Claim ownership of cardboard, no lol, but these guys use us as inspiration at the very least all of the time.
Cardboard robots for social interaction, I do have Prior Art over Labo though, and using them as controllers too. Luckily they didnt make it touch sensitive or I would have freaked... ;-)
Besides, did I scream at #BOXBOTICS ? I'll lay claim, with Doc of course, to starting a modern cardboard revolution. Hows that? :-)
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Agree that they overpriced the whole product. What was the point of making it out of cardboard and sell it at a higher cost than a Lego set.
Honestly they should given it out for free with a new switch, or a special edition version. They probably would have made more money overall with additional sales.
Anyhow I think they still missed the point of using cardboard is to keep it open ended for easy modification.
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Hey Bro, You Too Huh. :-D
Its a pity you didnt have all your friends at Hackaday, it makes one hell of a difference. ;-)
It appears to be an extensive club, and therefore not such an honour, but kudos for getting their attention at 7 dude. I've had to wait 51 years for the privilege of Apple putting copper plate on their flagship right after I waved my metal balls at them. They also stole my Prize video for one of their ads, the Nova effect.
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Apple: https://youtu.be/iOE5tr7mX4U
Mine: https://youtu.be/iRtS5QNWtfs
https://hackaday.io/project/19920-cardware/log/68319-sublimate-of-monster
I wrote the code for this effect, but YouTube f*d it up so badly I never used the video in the end. ;-)
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