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A event log for Finishing Your Projects Hack Chat

Zack Freedman on project follow-through

dan-maloneyDan Maloney 02/10/2021 at 22:190 Comments

OK folks, here we go. Welcome to the Hack Chat, I'm Dan and I'll be moderating today for Zack Freedman. We're going to talk about follow through on projects and actually finishing some of the projects you've got on your bench for a change. We're also livestreaming on YouTube, so tune in there too:

Mikael Grön12:01 PM
@Zack Freedman : What's on your HUD right now?

Just so you know, we'll be mostly taking questions here on the Hack Chat, and Zack will be answering them on the YT stream

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matthewbbarthet12:02 PM
@Dan Maloney Obvious question, what do i need to start making projects and where do i go for ideas and advice?

idontwanttotell12:02 PM
@Zack Freedman Do you finish every project do you start now?

chalmers12:02 PM
@Zack Freedman How do you deal with parnters backing out from projects?

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Ajb2k312:02 PM
@Zack Freedman are you watching another stream on your hud?

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FYI, I'll post a transcript on the IO chat right after we're done.

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James Finch12:04 PM
Lag time? B^|)

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I got a quick dropout, but looking good so far

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Ryo Kimball12:05 PM
Talking about the projects is further motivation for me. It feels liek I need more social interaction on a lot of the things I do and if I just stay locked in my head I tend to let them fade into the incomplete pile.

Peter Walsh12:05 PM
Dropout here too.

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Jim Brahney12:05 PM
How do you decide which project to start if you have multiple in mind?

idontwanttotell12:05 PM
@Ryo Kimball Its opposite for me

Peter Walsh12:06 PM
Jim Brahney: Which one would be most valuable to you when finished?

elmoelmojr12:06 PM
Is a button board a good way to start microcontroller projects?

Inne12:06 PM
What's your opinion on contests, with regards to finishing stuff. A distraction that forces you to postpone/steer projects in a different direction. Or is it free hardware with an extra motivation to finish stuff. Ever felt that you get parts you wouldn't use otherwise and now need extra effort in finding out how they work.

James Finch12:06 PM
Critical paths if time is a thing... planning for lag time in each step was something I learned with time constraints on critical projects where it's like get it done or no more funding.

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brezel07gaming12:07 PM
i wanna buy a resin printer but my dad says i have to have an idea to make profits to pay it off, any ideas?

morgan12:07 PM
just started with the Elegoo Mars, $150 and great so far

Richard DeBellevue12:07 PM
I use a Voxelab proxima, it is a mono printer that I picked up for $210 on amazon

Richard DeBellevue12:07 PM
it's comparable with a elegoo mars 2 imo

Zaydan12:08 PM
How do you deal with selecting between different options you can choose for a project?

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Generic Human12:08 PM
How do you fight losing interest in a project?

Richard DeBellevue12:09 PM
What system do you use to keep track of notes/progress on projects/ideas when you have multiple projects going on and have a lot to keep track of? I know I could settle on just one project, but I do like having several irons in the fire so to speak...

elmoelmojr12:09 PM
Whats the best microcontroller project to do when you want to dive in?

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Zeke12:10 PM
How long should projects exist before you act on them? I've had a lot of ideas for things I could do that just never get acted on.

James Murphy12:10 PM
Would anyone have ideas on how to create a device that would store Digitnal MP4 type Videos and Play them out so Old Style S-VHS required input devices. I've got 3 Sony Studio Monitors that take S-VHS Video in and RCA Mono. Anyone?

✖️Jonathan12:10 PM
I have creality ld-002r and my print fail everytime i try using an stl with supports in it, what am i doing wrong? I read something about more support density because it stops printing before it even builds the actual supports

theTruthBeSold12:10 PM
@Zack Freedman Your best tips/thoughts for accurate time projections on a new project; ideally a new project stretches you in someway, but I often find myself overwhelmed, things spiraling out of control or stuck on one thing that's preventing me from finishing overall.

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Richard DeBellevue12:11 PM
@✖️Jonathan Have you had any successful prints? I had similar issues and it was caused by the plate being slightly off-level

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Jim Brahney12:11 PM
How do you decide between valuable projects with longer timelines/big investments and projects with quicker results?

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kshen300512:12 PM
testing testing

matthewbbarthet12:12 PM
@Zack Freedman how much money does it take to start making projects

Adam12:12 PM
I been building drones for about 10 years now. Would love to see you do a small INAV autonomous wing that does waypoints. I would love to help if you ever did this.

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elmoelmojr12:12 PM
Whats the best microcontroller project to do when you want to dive in?

Michael Murillo12:12 PM
Do you use a PDM tool for solo projects? How do you organize the knowledge you accrue? I've been using Atlassian tools, but it's not geared towards solo engineering projects.

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James Finch12:13 PM
@James Murphy Like record and play the MP4's? Reminds me of a DVR for like drones or something better.

Vincent12:13 PM
@Zack Freedman Do you aver get a flood of ideas all at once in the middle of another project? If so, where do you keep them until your ready to start the new project? A text file? A pad of paper?

Michael Chastain12:13 PM
What is your threshold for saying no to something based on not having enough experience? Do you do tester projects towards a larger goal?

impinpb12:13 PM
I am doing a redox keyboard build because of you you have inspired me ty @Zack Freedman i am using kalih speed bronze

sn3ll12:13 PM
How do you plan a project and a video to go with it?

impinpb12:13 PM
and a 3d printed plate handwire

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elmoelmojr12:14 PM
Whats the best microcontroller project to do when you want to dive in?

discordia12:14 PM
why is it a bad idea to work on a project over years and just taking breaks if "life gets in the way"? i definetly have precident for staying motivated for so long.

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Zeke12:14 PM
That's a good one @sn3ll

Does video documentation help you plan your projects? All my note taking methods have felt clumsy and unorganized.

James Murphy12:15 PM
Well it did take me 25 years to get around to cleaning out the basement. 8-) Looks nice now...

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sajarin12:15 PM
What is the discord link?

elmoelmojr12:15 PM
Whats the best microcontroller project to do when you want to dive in?

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Jim Brahney12:16 PM
Pump it up

Rosset12:16 PM
How do you handle down time (in weeks) when waiting for parts/electronics to be ship to your place?

Generic Human12:16 PM
@elmoelmojr Arduinos are a good place to start

impinpb12:16 PM
discord link pls?

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elmoelmojr12:16 PM
Thanks @Generic Human

DrG12:16 PM
@Zack Freedman When do you decide the requirements for when a project is designated as "finished" project - at the beginning of the design phase, later on, when you are sick of doing it or got paid?

perlinwarp12:16 PM
@Zack Freedman How do you avoid burnout?

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✖️Jonathan12:17 PM
Where do you join the discord?

JonaBoi12:17 PM
@impinpb https://discord.gg/voidstarlab

JD12:17 PM
Do you ever take on risky projects where there's no guarantee of successful outcome?

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impinpb12:19 PM
thank you

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joeykrause3712:20 PM
@Zack Freedman rn i am making a project i call THE ULTIMATE ORGANIZATION STATION although its not your giant wall of organizers, it will be more than enough storage for my desk. i am going to print a usb/sd/micro sd holder out of tpu so it is easier to put in the things and so it doesnt get scuffed up putting it in. after this, im making a "tazer" out of an old laptop li-on battery. its gonna be awesome

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Saulo 12:21 PM
do you have the ambition of sell some of your projects from the channel?

idontwanttotell12:21 PM
@Zack Freedman Should I start a youtube channel just to push me finish my projects

Siva Experiment 42932012:21 PM
heyo @Zack Freedman how would you handle projects that seem to be unfinishable due to factors such as constant issues coming up? and another question, when would you know to cut your losses and either get someone else to finish the project or scrap it?

Terence Brannigan12:21 PM
Every project I do has me learn something new.

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Generic Human12:22 PM
How do you fight loss of interest?

matthewbbarthet12:22 PM
do you plan out projects or just jump into them head first? which do you think is better?

MyFirstName IsNotEEstar12:23 PM
Don't you think that glasses are bad for your eyes?

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Siva Experiment 42932012:25 PM
@MyFirstName IsNotEEstar that is a cursed question

joeykrause3712:25 PM
what is your favorite project that you never finished?

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MyFirstName IsNotEEstar12:25 PM
@Siva Experiment 429320 XD, im thinking that since i started watching his videos

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alexbaekeland12:26 PM
Hi how are you, do you think to know how to code is important to be able to do projects?

Seth Howell12:26 PM
hey! how do you go about finding new collaborators for projects or videos?

Zaydan12:27 PM
How do you deal with selecting between different options you can choose for a project?

Inne12:27 PM
@Zack Freedman Do you ever feel that documentation is de-motivational and how do you make sure it isn't holding you back. What are the essentials for documenting a project (for you).

morgan12:27 PM
oh blob, that's like my workspace

Erik Olson12:27 PM
I'm an EE. But while making and testing a PCB, I spend 10x the time on mechanical and UI design.

How do you stay working on the boring stuff in your specialty?

SneakyFatGuyGames12:28 PM
Before you even start a project, how do you decide if it's worth a video? Do you just record everything then decide?

joeykrause3712:28 PM
shipping container1

Saulo 12:28 PM
project suggestion: recycling station =)

morgan12:28 PM
thougth... I've recently learned moving is a big motivator to get rid of old crap

Blakely.kusak12:28 PM
What is a good first project?

morgan12:28 PM
thankfully, I moved to a bigger house I can fill with new crap

MyFirstName IsNotEEstar12:29 PM
Sell all your old crap for shipping costs + 50 cents

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Ian Charnas12:29 PM
Zack - love your videos and projects! They include lots of "smarts" - for example no youtuber has tackled fluxgate magnetometers in as entertaining a way as you. However they also include a lot of jokes, gorgeous visuals, and entertainment value. Do you find there's ever a battle happening in your mind between wanting to produce something that's "smart" and wanting to produce something that's entertaining? Do you aim to always do both?

JD12:29 PM
What's your balance of practical projects vs "for the memes!" type projects

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Richard DeBellevue12:29 PM
@Zack Freedman Where are you moving to in colorado? I would love to connect with some local hackers when covid is not such a big problem and have a hackerspace type thing for 3d printing, AI, electronics stuff, etc.

Blakely.kusak12:29 PM
@Zack Freedman What is a good first project?

"When in doubt, chuck it out" Love it

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Cam Shand12:30 PM
Let's say you finish that project, lots of little issues went wrong, time wasted, to the point you don't want to look at it. How do you then make a YouTube video without it being a rant about all the problems haha

thomaskoenders40712:31 PM
Hi, Zach,

im extremely scared of electicity, but I would love to start working on small arduino projects. It's an irrational fear of mine. Do you have any tips?

p.s. can you please increase your gain, you are quite low on your volume

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c6412:31 PM
wait can I paste in my stacktraces and expect Zach to help me fix the issues?

ian12:32 PM
how do i make things that i will want to keep

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chalmers12:32 PM
chackra ui!!

Blakely.kusak12:33 PM
Question Zack❓ what is a good first project?

Zeke12:33 PM
I've put together a STEM club at my school, and we all want to learn more about electronics and programming, but we're having some trouble with finding a project to take on, and more importantly finish. Any advice?

morgan12:34 PM
firmware and infrastructure code (server) are a drag for me because I program all day for work. Things like Node RED, Tasamota and ESPHome have been great for reducing the amount of code I need for hardware proejcts

JD12:34 PM
Do you aim to "invent" things? Or are projects ephemeral?

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kshen300512:35 PM
Kevin Asks- When I have only half of the materials, do I wait until I have everything to get started or should I begin the project right away to take advantage of the project "urge"

Yes Please12:36 PM
Do you intentionally gather supplies for most of your projects, or have you just built up enough of a junk pile (or junk assortment drawer array) that you look for a solution within your existing stock?

Blakely.kusak12:36 PM
its cu like a bird and sock on your foot, for my name

Inne12:37 PM
@Zack Freedman What's your opinion about contests, with regards to finishing stuff. A distraction that forces you to postpone/steer projects in a different direction. Or is it free hardware with an extra motivation to finish stuff. Ever felt that you get parts you wouldn't use otherwise and now need extra effort in finding out how they work.

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FR01LAN12:38 PM
How do you deal with overengineering projects and bloated designs?

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matthewbbarthet12:39 PM
do you need to learn any programming languages for this kinda stuff? if so whats the most versatile?

QualitytheCactus12:39 PM
I dont have a problem finishing pojects because i am too scared to start them. Any suggestions?

jacobjgalloway12:40 PM
I would say "products" never end, but "projects" do end. Hence the concept of iterations

morgan12:40 PM
if it requires tinkering, make a v2

morgan12:40 PM
extensive tinkering....

joeykrause3712:41 PM
what is your favorite project you never finished?

For reference:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6raRftH9yxM

YouTube Zack Freedman

Seth Howell12:41 PM
of all the projects you have built, which SOLUTION was your favorite to come up with and why?

ian12:42 PM
how do you feel like you belong in the maker community. is it normal to feel like this for a while ?

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@Ian -- sounds like you're talking about "imposter syndrome". Correct?

ian12:43 PM
yea

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ian12:43 PM
any tips for getting over it

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itsshreyarora12:43 PM
ny advice about home automation? whats a good way to start with it? IM trying to make a system for it, and what u said is very relevant, how do i prioritize what i should add or not?

Telra12:44 PM
Question Zack❓ what is your input on Humanoid Android in the DIY Space❓

I won't answer for @Zack Freedman, but I've been an imposter for over 50 years and I'm still doing fine ;-)

morgan12:44 PM
^^ me too ^^

Mikael Grön12:44 PM
me three

morgan12:44 PM
thought not quite that long...

itsshreyarora12:44 PM
ny advice about home automation? whats a good way to start with it? IM trying to make a system for it, and what u said is very relevant, how do i prioritize what i should add or not?

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ian12:45 PM
nice so don't worry about it all @Dan Maloney

Tom Nardi12:45 PM
On the whole the hacker/maker community is very welcoming and respects people who wish to learn. I'd recommend worrying less about what you know now and focus on what you can learn once you dive in.

Telra12:45 PM
Question Zack❓ what is your input on Humanoid Android in the DIY Space❓

itsshreyarora12:45 PM
ny advice about home automation? whats a good way to start with it? IM trying to make a system for it, and what u said is very relevant, how do i prioritize what i should add or not?

Nemanja Vukmirovic12:45 PM
So i am working on a project (code) for a client that is several thousand miles away...

I wouldn't have any problems if he had defined everything upstart, but while working he is thinking of more and more features that already intervene with my existing code so I am on a peak of trashing everything and starting again...

Question: Do you work projects as a freelancer if so how are you dealing with bad | way expecting clients?

But I will share some advice my dad gave me. He did carpentry work on the side, and he always said, "I don't have to be the best carpenter in the world, all I have to do is be a better carpenter than the guy who hired me."

Ticktok12:45 PM
double down, I am an electrical engineer, and I feel like I can't release anyting because I "should" be release all this advanced stuff but I'm still just doing simple projects. I M P O S T E R

sn3ll12:46 PM
@Zack Freedman Do you have any advice on making videos from your projects?

itsshreyarora12:46 PM
ny advice about home automation? whats a good way to start with it? IM trying to make a system for it, and what u said is very relevant, how do i prioritize what i should add or not?

Jade Paradox12:46 PM
I feel really anxious joining makerspaces feeling inadequate, but I don't know how else to network with people to learn from. What's a good way to bounce ideas off of people who might be able to collaborate on a project?

itsshreyarora12:47 PM
ny advice about home automation? whats a good way to start with it? IM trying to make a system for it, and what u said is very relevant, how do i prioritize what i should add or not?

Mikael Grön12:48 PM
@Zack Freedman : Tried mindfulness? It helped me to get rid of some of my dist... Oh look, a squirrel!

Generic Human12:48 PM
How do you fight loss of interest in a project?

Nemanja Vukmirovic12:48 PM
@itsshreyarora try node-red with raspberry pi

JD12:48 PM
What's your "motivational substance" of choice?

itsshreyarora12:48 PM
ny advice about home automation? whats a good way to start with it? IM trying to make a system for it, and what u said is very relevant, how do i prioritize what i should add or not?

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Cray12:48 PM
Zack, I Keep messing up some of my Autocad projects, What should I Do to focus more on my Autocad?

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ismailk112:49 PM
would you consider yourself a design engineer

itsshreyarora12:49 PM
is it cool if i do everything with an rpi and a bunch of relays?

itsshreyarora12:49 PM
is it cool if i do everything with an rpi and a bunch of relays?

itsshreyarora12:50

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