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Lattepanda 3 Delta Recording Rig

A Solution for a compact yet feature-rich recording setup to perform multitrack recording and simple editing, sharing and streaming.

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Covid Lockdowns closed recording studios and changed the way I recorded music, using home driven setups and available halls where restrictions allowed.
Now we have returned to a more normal state (where Covid is involved, anyway), studios have opened up again, but I find myself still recording a great deal from home or in other remote locations.

This project aims to create a compact recording and editing rig which will allow me to record anything from quick vocal takes to more extensive ensembles, edit the audio on the fly and share the results quickly and easily with collaborators and clients alike.

The setup needs to be quick to setup, but must also still give high quality output to make this worthwhile.

Proposal

To create this project I aim to combine off the shelf hardware to create an all-in-one multitrack field recorder, and stow the device and my mics and cables in a rugged pelicase with foam supporting my mics and device.

The device will be a combination of:

  • A small PC/SBC
  • Touchscreen
  • Audio Interface
  • Control Surface

PC/SBC Choice

Previous projects of this ilk have always lead me towards a Raspberry Pi, as demonstrated in my #Pi Pedalboard: Live/Recording Rig project. For this project I'd like to try something different and use a Windows-based platform to run my software. Having been a big fan of the Lattepanda series of SBCs by DFRobot, I contacted them and discussed my project with them, and they were really excited by my ideas, and have kindly offered to send me a board in order to create the project. I am absolutely blown away.

The Lattepanda 3 Delta will be a great platform to run a more lightweight DAW such as Reaper on it. While basic editing will be performed here the aim will be to transfer the project to desktop for proper editing, so the aim will be to focus on getting good recording performance rather than how many plugins can be handled in this setup, for example.

Touchscreen Choice

A 7"-10" touchscreen will be a solid choice for this project. The touchscreen will mainly serve to augment the experience and provide access to the DAW controls not available on the hardware controller.

Audio Interface / Control Surface

While I have used many mics and audio interfaces across the years in various studio and live instances my current setup has always revolved around using Rode Microphones (a pair of NT1-a mics and an NT-USB for quick recordings), paired with the Zoom U-24 audio interface.

I love the interface and those mics, and I'm always able to get what I am after, and my only drawback is my need for more.

Given my comfort with Zoom and Rode, I have looked at their interface offerings to see what could fit the bill for this project, and there are two stand-out options: The Rode Rodecaster Pro and the Zoom R24.

The Rodecaster Pro is essentially an all in one podcasting desk, with four mic inputs and a whole host of connectivity features, including USB output for recording. This would work well as it would be a perfect match for the Four Rode Mics I will carry in this setup and will allow for full hardware control over the audio inputs before heading into the DAW, somewhat removing the need to have a separate control device for this.

The R24, however, seems to be almost perfect for this project. It brings 8 Mic inputs, in addition to a pair of built in microphones for quick on the fly recordings, The standout feature for the R24 is its ability to act as a control surface for the DAW itself, meaning full full control over audio in and the DAW can be had from the controls on the R24.

While similar in dimensions the design of the R24 also stands out to me as its shape looks like it would support some brackets on the side to allow the touchscreen to be mounted and be orientated like the Microsoft Surface Laptop Studio, for example,  without covering any ports on the device.

I have contacted Rode and Zoom to query whether they could like to support this project. While not vital that they join it will massively help me get this project roadworthy in a much quicker timeframe and enable me to create some supporting YouTube content of my build.

lattepanda test 1.wav

First recording with Lattepanda! Loaded Reaper DAW to record. Test Setup: Lattepanda 3 Delta Portable Monitor (USB power, HDMI display) 2.4gHz cheap keyboard/trackpad combo Rode NT-USB Microphone. No editing or treatment.

Waveform Audio File Format (WAV) - 29.12 MB - 09/23/2022 at 17:03

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  • 1 × Lattepanda 3 delta
  • 1 × LattePanda Titan Case
  • 1 × LattePanda Network Streaming Cable For connecting devices to Lattepanda when not on WiFi
  • 1 × 512GB SSD For LattePanda's OS
  • 1 × Behringer UMC1820 Audio Interface

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  • We Created a Song!

    Craig Hissett04/26/2023 at 22:50 2 comments

    While the project log updates have not been regular, work on this project has been ongoing - and it's doing well! I have made great progress with my portable recording endeavours, and have used the LattePanda to record a full track!

    The track is a song I helped my 9 Year old son Isaac to write, and consists of Vocals, Brass and guitar. It is a lovely song we wrote for his mother, and I have released it on Bandcamp and Spotify:

    https://isaachissett.bandcamp.com/track/your-baby
    https://open.spotify.com/track/1cWpDu2MLdMeMSLRDZb2ui?si=23e6f235659541f4

    For recording I paired the LattePanda with my Rode NT-USB Microphone mounted to a small tripod mic stand, with a phone holder mounting the Lattepanda and a tablet holder mounting the screen to the stand.
    It provided me with a fantastic, all-in-one setup that only required one cable running to the Lattepanda to be up and running.

    The board was great with recording raw audio but I did notice some latency when trying to record with any kind of audio processing attempted on the board, so I opted to record the audio without ant effects for a better experience. This wasn't bad, as using OneDrive meant all audio was available seconds later on my laptop or desktop to edit on a more powerful rig.

    This presents a fantastic vocal rig for quick jobs, so I'm really impressed with it.

  • Taking shape

    Craig Hissett01/18/2023 at 17:19 0 comments

    I've done some messing around with software over the last few weeks, and now it was time to take a look at finally putting together the hardware. It has, today, been strewn across a cupboard in no sensible formation.

    I've mulled over many options for the build, and was pretty keen on procuring a rack flightcase to put the items together; the interfaces occupying 1U space each using some rackmounts I've had printed, and a further 1u drawer for the lattepanda, tablet and control surfaces etc.

    That becomes quite unwieldy when drawers need sliding out and will take up a great amount of space. It also leaves no room for mic storage, so would require another case for those. Not ideal.

    I have put together the following items above; one interface, the lattepanda, the control surface and a surface 3 plus dock. It fits together so snuggly and retains an almost laptop-like form factor. I'm going to look to build a board with shelf to fit this guise.

  • MIDI/OSC

    Craig Hissett01/08/2023 at 01:43 0 comments

    I'm currently looking at options for the physical control aspect of this build.

    While my makeproaudio device is brilliant, it is reliant on a network connection in its current guise, which complicates the plan. My original thought was to run an ethernet cable directly between the lattepanda and the Pi in the MPA, but I also want to test out usb midi control too.

    To that end I've ordered a few midi controllers to try out over the next week or two. Exciting!

  • End of 2022 Update

    Craig Hissett12/22/2022 at 17:10 0 comments

    Apologies for the lack of updates on this one!

    There has been a great deal of progress with this one:

    Lattepanda - I've added a 500gb m.2 SSD to the board to increased storage, and I will be installing Windows 11 as my base OS for the project. Some time had been spent playing with Windows 10 initially, and then I've spent some time using Ubuntu on it. Ubuntu was great and really responsive and for the last few weeks was going to be my OS of choice as I would have been more comfortable with it for using VNC for remote access, but my new plan for display and control will work just as well with Windows, so back to Windows I go, ha ha! It will be my first dalliance with 11 rather than 10, so if it isn't what I'm hoping this will change once more.

    Last change with the lattepanda is I've picked up the Titan case for it, which is really frigging cool. It looks awesome.

    Audio Interfaces - I've added a second UMC404HD to my arsenal for this. Under windows I have ran both as one aggregated interface using the ASIO4ALL driver. Once I've got Windows 11 installed I'll be aiming to get the latency down as much as I can without causing jittering performance in Reaper, my DAW of choice.

    8 mic inputs, a tonne outputs and two dedicated headphone outs makes this setup really quite useful for my plans. Really happy with the interface choices.

    Display - While looking for the Lattepanda case on the dfrobot site I landed upon a link cable they sell for the Lattepanda. This cable is a USB A-USB-A cable, which acts as a virtual network between the board and a host device. I've ordered one and when it arrives I will look to use an old iPad 3 with a camera kit as the screen and input device. If I can get it to work the way I want I will be absolutely buzzing, as it'll give me the exact control I need, with also the ability to disconnect the iPad and use it wirelessly with the Reaper web interface once the session is set up.

    Auxiliary control - the final hardware part I want to integrate is a MakeProAudio controller I have from another project. Powered by a Raspberry Pi 4, it brings 4 motorized faders and a whole selection of encoders and buttons to the party, and can connect to Reaper via Wi-Fi using OSC to interact with Reaper. Between the iPad and the MakeProAudio unit I will have the perfect mix of software control and a physical interface to mix in Reaper.

    Once I have these last few bits and pieces ironed out in January I can finally plan my assembly.

    My thoughts so far are to stack the two interfaces, position the MakeProAudio device to the right side of it, and create a slot for the iPad to sit above the interfaces and level with the control device.

    Power will need to be considered, with the Lattepanda and MakeProAudio device requiring wall power, with the iPad also needing a charging point in there too. We also have three devices needing networking together, so a space for a switch/hotspot type device may come in handy. 

    Cheers!

  • Testing Interface

    Craig Hissett10/18/2022 at 21:49 0 comments

    While I scour for a reasonably priced Zoom R24 for this I have managed to get a great deal on a Behringer U-PHORIA UMC404HD interface for me to get some more testing done with the Lattepanda.

    This interface is an ideal candidate for this, as it features four XLR/Jack combination ins, four outs, input padding and phantom power for condenser mics; all the things I'd like.

    While the interface lacks the ability to control a DAW physically I will be using a custom device from MakePro Audio as a substitute for now.

    The control device contains a Raspberry Pi 4, and can communicate using OSC via wifi/ethernet and let me introduce four motorised faders and a smattering of buttons and encoders to use with my recording software.

    If I can combine the two boards to work reliably together and also sit nicely in an enclosure/case I'll be tempted to crack on with this setup in all honesty.

  • First Recording Test

    Craig Hissett09/25/2022 at 00:12 0 comments

    I have completed my first test, and added the output to the files section. 

    To test recording I connected a portable monitor to the Lattepanda 3 Delta, with a USB and hdmi lead for power and display respectively.

    I added a mini keyboard/trackpad using USB again for the receiver.

    Last of the three USB ports I connected my Rode NT-USB microphone. This mic is a solid condenser mic which connects directly via USB without the need of an interface. Perfect for a single mono tester.

    I installed Reaper as my DAW of choice, enabling the Web UI for it to allow for some control via my phone. I'm  blown away how fast and snappy the Lattepanda is. I wasn't sure what to expect with Windows 10 being such a large OS, but I was really impressed. Adding the WiFi antenna was a fiddly affair but I suspect it was my large fingers causing the issue there, but once connected it held its connection to my network well.

    Next up will be to switch the mic for an audio interface and try tracking a few channels at once. I would also like to add an m.2 ssd to give more storage for recorded audio.

  • It is here!

    Craig Hissett09/20/2022 at 11:17 0 comments

    The Lattepanda 3 Delta has arrived!

    The DFRobot hiys have kindly sent their 8gb RAM, 64gb onboard storage variant, which will be the best platform to attempt to run a stable DAW on.

    I will get this unbowed later and pair it with an audio interface to get some testing done. Still looking to secure an interface/DAW controller for my final build but that will not halt my progress.


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  • 1
    LattePanda Prep

    Install the SSD and mount the LattePanda in the Titan Case.

    Install OS (Windows 11 in my case, although Ubuntu would be a great shout too)

    Install Reaper DAW

  • 2
    Pi Prep

    Attach the Pisound HAT and mount the Pi in the Pisound Case.

    Install Patchbox OS, and install the Modep module for access to the effects

  • 3
    1U Shelf

    Mount the Pi and the LattePanda to the shelf.

    I have used cable ties as my shelf has many mounting holes

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FORART fe wrote 12/01/2022 at 19:09 point

Hi there, this projects sounds REALLY interesting !

We wanna suggest you to check out our RECKRACK list where you can find other (maybe) inspiring projects: https://hackaday.io/list/164050-recrack-projects

Then we strongly suggest you take deeper a look at the @ben biles's Multichannel Audio DSP Field Mixer Recorder project that could be extremely inspiring for yours too: https://hackaday.io/project/7041-multichannel-audio-dsp-field-mixer-recorder

In the end, some kind of collaboration between projects would be of course great.

FORART

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Craig Hissett wrote 12/22/2022 at 16:06 point

Thanks for your message! Apologies for the late reply, I didn't get a notification :-)

I have followed Ben's and most of the other projects on your list, I love them. One day I'd love to put together my own custom hardware, but it is beyond my skills at present, so off the shelf it is for now.

I'm just about to write an update to this project, be sure to check it out!

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