We can't say this enough, but we were blown away by the response we got from the DEF CON community last year. DC24 was an amazing experience, we met so many great people. Our experience from the conference can be summed up in this tweet by @wookie_p

"True cost of the @ANDnXOR Bender badge: takes 2x longer to walk con floor. So many questions about badge! #defcon"

The plan for DC25 was to take a few months off and come up with ideas. This didn't exactly happen, we went right into testing and prototyping. We have an initial list of 30+ features to incorporate, a BOM, and design. We aren't ready to release many of those details yet. But here's what we are ready to say:

• It will be bigger - roughly twice the surface area of last year's badge
• There will be more - at least double, this is dependent on how much money we can come up with as a group
• The BOM has doubled in cost - we will try to keep the final cost in check through crowd funding and sponsorships TBD
• We will not be doing production by hand
• The badge will not be running Arduino - sorry Zapp can't handle the IDE any longer
• The badge will be hackable - bring your SWD tools
• There will be a lot more bling
• The RF will work

Stay tuned, we will continue to use Twitter and Hackaday.io to release details.