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SAO Lora Walkie Talkie

SAO that adds Lora Communication

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An adapter that accepts a Reyax RYLR998 Transceiver to easily enable wireless serial communication from an SAO using the GPIO pins. It is made to look like an retro walkie talkie.
Possibly add LEDs to show the actual tx/rx activity on the lines (V2). Lora is amazing technology and very accessible requiring only simple AT commands over serial to send data. Hoping to have a few at SuperCon 2024 to get badges talking. Coming to an SAO port near you...

SAO GPIO pins will be for the RX/TX pins on the Lora module.

The Push to Talk button on the side will be the reset button for the Lora module.

A Mini red led as a power indicator.

  • Boards are on the way

    jeremy.geppert17 hours ago 0 comments

    The boards are set to arrive on Tuesday!

  • Parts starting to arrive

    jeremy.geppert4 days ago 0 comments

    The resistors and leds showed up from DigiKey today. SMALL!!!!  I am going to reverse mount this LED through a hole in the board for the power light. This will be interesting. The boards are delayed due to the Chinese holiday but I hope to have them by the end of next week.

    CMD17-21VRD/TR8 LED on the left next to SAO connector on the right.


  • Lights, Revisions, Ordered boards!

    jeremy.geppert09/29/2024 at 04:47 0 comments

    After some help from my brother once again there is now a red power light. It's a tiny board and getting a bit crowded. I submitted an order for a bunch of boards tonight after verifying everything 10 times.

    Ordering resistors and leds from DigiKey next. They are SMD, this will be fun. The through hole effect for the LED should be worth it though.

    Don't worry!!! This isn't a repeat mistake like on my first SAO Speak & Spell boards... The pins on the LoRa module get trimmed and the whole thing slides down during assembly,

    I found the print mirrored image in KiCad for alignment purposes when you pads are on the back of the pcb.

  • Different mounting solution and a power LED

    jeremy.geppert09/27/2024 at 04:43 0 comments

    I had planned to use a right angle socket connect to plug the Reyax LoRa module into. However, when I physically prototyped this tonight I found it was going to take up too much room and push the length up to near 2". I really want to keep this board small. My brother Andy (Core64 guy) suggested removing the through holes and using SMD pads and just solder the existing right angle pins on the module to the back of the board. Yep, this is the way. I learned how to turn my footprint in KiCad into SMD pads. This added a benefit of less through holes polluting the front of the board. Happy accident.

    With the planned right angle socket... too big!

    Cleaner front now in the rendering. Note: Mic label/hole is just for aesthetics, no microphone. 

    The back is getting crowded!!!! Red LED and Resistor to shine through hole in board indicating power. This will allow this SAO to be just a fun non-functional board as well.

    Even this blind dog finds bones... The standoff created by the 90 degree pins on the Lora module keep the antenna off the board just enough. I'd like to show off the antenna but I think it needs the protection of the board.


    Printed out the board outline with traces to make sure things are lining up well. This will work!

    I'll trim the inner 3 pins but leave the outer 2 pins long and "clamp" them when installing the SAO connector. Another brother Andy suggestion. The middle pads are 6mm long and the outer are 7mm. I am hoping this is plenty of surface area to keep it anchored and durable.

  • Tedious Learning

    jeremy.geppert09/26/2024 at 12:13 0 comments

    I ended up learning the finer points of making a custom symbol and footprint in Kicad. I took the struggle bus to this class though. I modified a foot print and symbol for a right angle 0.10" spaced socket that will hold the Reyax Lora module. I wanted that to have a properly identified ground pin/pad and labels on the board in case someone decided to use a different module and for my sanity. Also, the courtyard silk screen for the footprint I started with intruded on the pads for the switch. It's all good now.

    I eliminated the cutout on the antenna portion of the board. It was going to be very thin. I added a silk screen antenna symbol instead. This will provide good protection for the antenna on the LoRa module.

    Last thing is to add a power LED. I'm leaning towards the trick of shining through the exposed FR4 with a surface mount LED but I haven't ruled out a traditional through hole mini LED.

  • Stay on target...

    jeremy.geppert09/25/2024 at 12:11 0 comments

    This is my second PCB design and my first hasn't arrived yet. My brother predicted that once I got over the early learning curve of the process I'd be empowered to implement all the ideas floating around in my head. Yep. I've got a long ways to go for learning but I now know enough to be dangerous.

    I'm going to attempt to not get too ambitious and end up with a project that doesn't end up happening. Get something out the door that works and then iterate. Uhg, I just summarized "agile". But unlike in the software world where agile often becomes an excuse for micromanaging meetings and ignoring the bigger picture, this approach will probably work in my little world for my tiny projects.

    No tx/rx lights in V1. Just a simple power light.

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