# Unpopulated passives

A project log for LiFePO4wered/9.6V

A USB chargeable 9.6V RC battery pack that will last for thousands of cycles

Patrick Van Oosterwijck 11/10/2015 at 17:000 Comments

One may wonder why there are some unpopulated footprints for passives scattered around the board. These are more evidence of a lack of thorough engineering on my part when I quickly threw this circuit together. :)

Initially I was intending to detect whether the battery is full during charge by checking whether all three shunt regulators have activated. This seems like a really elegant way to check for end of charge, and in theory, it is. The problem is the way I was trying to measure this condition. I was going to measure the base voltage of the bypass transistors, and since I am already measuring the top of each cell (which is connected to the bypass transistor's emitter), I could calculate the VBE and figure out if the transistor is on.

Unfortunately, since I'm measuring voltages up to ~12V using an ADC reference of 1.5V, I am using voltage dividers with a pretty high ratio (5.11M and 680K). So the absolute tolerance of the top resistor makes a pretty big difference compared to value of the bottom resistor, even with 1% resistors. On top of that, since I'm measuring the VBE difference using two different resistive dividers, their tolerances can add up to make things worse. I calculated that for the expected 0.6V VBE value, my measurement error could be as high as +/-0.4V, worst case! Unusable when trying to design a reliable circuit.

It might have been possible to monitor the VBE change during charge instead of using an absolute threshold, but that would assume we know the state of charge of the cells when starting a recharge. I didn't want to make any such assumptions since the system needs to work correctly when a full battery is plugged in as well.

I decided instead to just determine the end of charge by measuring the voltage at the top of the battery. All cells need to be at 3.6V to have the top of the battery reach 10.8V. Of course, we have some measurement inaccuracy here as well, but it's only the inaccuracy of one resistive divider instead of the potentially cumulative inaccuracy of two. I calculated the inaccuracy to be ~250mV, and I deal with this by setting the threshold lower and having a "top off" timer that will keep the charge current going for 5 more minutes. This is safe because the shunt regulators will bypass the excess current and prevent the cell voltage from going above 3.6V.

On the "cell empty" end, the measurement inaccuracy isn't a problem because of the big voltage change for an empty cell. The cell voltage shouldn't go lower than 2V, but a cell at 3V is just a drop away from being empty as well. So with my per-cell threshold at 2.7V, I should be safe in not switching the load off too early while making sure I don't discharge the cell too deeply.

So with all of this, measuring the shunt regulator base voltages has become useless, so I'm not populating those parts. An added benefit is that it also reduces the leakage current through the voltage dividers.