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A project log for Yet Another (Discrete) Clock

I HAD to finally do this basic "exercice de style" in digital electronics, using some hundreds of transistors and diodes...

yann-guidon-ygdesYann Guidon / YGDES 03/26/2016 at 00:475 Comments

The latest progress is encouraging but the practical limits are reached. I need the following things :

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matseng wrote 03/26/2016 at 04:43 point

A Rb clock have a relatively low jitter compared to the the 1pps output on a GPS timing unit. But the Rb got a long term drift and also varies the frequency with the room temperature even when properly shielded and ovenized.   But the GPS have excellent long-term stability (hours/days/years)  since it's are based on cesium clocks in the satellites.   So by having the Rb clock slightly pulled into submission by the  GPS on a long-term averaging basis excellent results can be achieved.

A bog-standard Rb source is more than enough for any sane persons needs.  I'm not a time-nut,but I already had all the parts already so I decided to put it all together just for fun...

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matseng wrote 03/26/2016 at 03:15 point

I'd love to have a nice and small signal generator for digital electronics. Today I've got one of those boat anchors - the HP 3325A.  It's kinda nice with microhertz resolution, sweeps, phase adjustment , output voltages up to +-40 volts, and other stuffs. But it's huge and limited to 20MHz sines and 10MHz square.


If be happy with a unit with just 1Hz resolution at a range of 1Hz up to 100MHz. And then have just square output with fixed voltages of 1.8, 2.5, 3.3 and 5 volts. Maybe it's time to design a unit like that based on one of the SiLabs PLL thingies. Not LCD/OLED display though - I like the big and highly visible 7-segments :-)

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Yann Guidon / YGDES wrote 03/26/2016 at 03:22 point

Nice rack ;-)

I have something else in mind, using 74HC stuff first. Powered with a couple of AA batteries, square output. Most of the complexity is with selecting an output and applying a crude predivider... simple, cheap, no programming, useful for testing my clock and the #Discrete YASEP

Then, I would make a sort of DDS with a FPGA. I'm browsing the Rubidium timebases on eBay at this very moment...

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matseng wrote 03/26/2016 at 03:47 point

I've got (or actually had - since it's all boxed up now) the external input of the 3325 hooked up to a 10Mhz Rb-unit that I have connected to a GPS timing module for disciplining.  So I have a GPS antenna on my roof...  One of my neighbours recognized the shape of the antenna and asked why I wanted to know the location of the house :-)

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Yann Guidon / YGDES wrote 03/26/2016 at 04:14 point

I have some timing GPS receivers (somewhere in my boxes). But no access to the roof, inside my workshop in a large industrial-era building... a Rb osc would be more handy and would cost as much as buying 10s of meters of coax cable. I have an amplified antenna but no clue if it's 50 or 75 Ohms......

Now, I read and suppose that Rb outputs have some jitter, due to the output DDS.

But for now, a tiny TCXO is more than enough, right ?

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