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This project was created on 01/20/2014 and last updated a month ago.

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Christoph wrote a day ago 2 points

Can I have an "Add a project log" button at the top of my project logs? I don't like having to scroll down every time.

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davedarko wrote 2 days ago 1 point

Compliments for the gallery feature! I like that you've included the pictures from the logs to it!

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jaromir.sukuba wrote 2 days ago 2 points

Yep, the gallery is fantastic. 

The ability to scroll in the gallery with right/left arrows would be great.

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zakqwy wrote 8 hours ago point

Good idea--agreed. Overall, awesome feature--it's a fun way to revisit the early days of a big project!

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davedarko wrote 6 hours ago point

@jaromir.sukuba - scrolling with the keys works when you maximize the pictures in the gallery (which is kind of a weird feature, since the pictures aren't that much larger...)

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jaromir.sukuba wrote 6 hours ago 1 point

Yes, you are right, I tried it just now. Nobody expects Spanish inq... oh wait, scrolling the maximized picture, when non-maximized doesn't work.

Anyway, having the possibility of scrolling in non-maximized gallery would be fine.

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Johnny B. Goode wrote 2 days ago point

When I try to follow this project the "Follow" button changes to the "Following" button with the checkmark, but this project does not show up in my list of followed projects. This is occuring in Firefox 35.0.1 and in Internet Explorer 11.0.9600.17501 both running on Windows 7(64 bit). I can provide screenshots if necessary.

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Jasmine wrote a day ago point

Hello Johnny,  We've tried the same setup as you and can't seem to replicate the issue. If you could provide a screenshot we'll be able to check with the same project etc. that would be great. Thanks.

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Johnny B. Goode wrote a day ago point

Should I just email those to somebody or is there somewhere specific I should upload them to?

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Jasmine wrote 5 hours ago point

I'll PM you.

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Matt Hughes wrote 2 days ago point

Getting an error trying to update my e-mail address:

{"error":{"other":{"msg":"Error occurred while updating user profile."}}}

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Benchoff wrote 2 days ago point

Can we get a screenshot/OS/browser version? Reproduction steps?

Oh, and if you want me to change your email address, just message me or something.

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Matt Hughes wrote 2 days ago point

Sure... I'm using Firefox 36.0 on OS X Mavericks. Here's a screenshot: 

http://puu.sh/gczYd/87330a3079.png

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Jasmine wrote a day ago point

Hello Matt, we've been able to replicate this. There is a bug, but also I think it's because you have a duplicate account. I'll PM you. 

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jaromir.sukuba wrote 2 days ago point

Every time I put something from clipboard into comment it inserts new line

http://hackaday.com/blog/

http://hackaday.com/blog/

http://hackaday.com/blog/

Now what actually wrote was triple Ctrl+V and then enter, though the editor threw new line in before every instance I pasted. Is this feature or bug?

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Jasmine wrote 2 days ago point

Hello jaromir.sukuba, we got a ticket for this one. Thanks!

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davedarko wrote 3 days ago point

You should prevent people from naming their projects something with a backslash in it, like http://hackaday.io/project/4434-PiDP-8/I 

http://hackaday.io/project/4434

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davedarko wrote 3 days ago point

not sure how the space/   got there :D

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Jasmine wrote 3 days ago 1 point

Thanks Dave. I'll add that to the list. I think the   is another bug. 

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zakqwy wrote 7 days ago 1 point

I'm guessing this has come up previously; what are the general thoughts on reducing the size of the "Does this project spark your interest?" bar that pops up for non-logged-in viewers? It's been a source of regular confusion when I share projects with folks that don't have a HaD.io account. I understand the desire to increase user base, and having an easy signup/in option is good--maybe just dial it back a bit? As an example, this is what I see on a Samsung Galaxy S4 when I look at a project without signing in: http://imgur.com/Xt2JwvO

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davedarko wrote 7 days ago 1 point

I think this should only pop up, when somebody hits the skull or follow button on the page.

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Johnny B. Goode wrote 7 days ago 2 points

I agree that it's a bit intrusive. I guess I didn't notice it at first because I was always signed in when looking at projects, but I looked at one yesterday when I wasn't signed in and at least half the page was the "Does this project spark your interest" signup bar, and that's using a 15" notebook.

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Jasmine wrote 3 days ago 1 point

Thanks zakqwy, davedarko, and Johnny B. Goode. We do have a ticket for this. I've added your feedback to it. Cheers. 

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Steel_9 wrote 8 days ago point

The E-mail slot in account settings will not accept any E-mail address with an underscore in it.  this makes it so I cannot update my E-mail address.

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Jasmine wrote 8 days ago point

Hello Steel_9, I've PMed you for more details. 

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Johnny B. Goode wrote 9 days ago 1 point

Feedback on Hackaday Projects
posted in response to
http://hackaday.com/2015/02/18/show-me-the-data-hackaday-io-year-01/


The Good:
 The site is usable. I realize that may not sound like much, but that really is an accomplishment in and of itself. There is no shortage of collaboration and project hosting sites on the internet, and I can say from personal experience that they're mostly terrible. I have looked for collaboration tools for my own undertakings, and have found that to do what I want the (currently)best available option is a wiki. Wikis have many limitations, and to do everything I want I would have to roll my own system, which I do not have time to do.

The OK:
 The project site layout isn't terrible, despite what others may say. I wasn't too keen on it at first, but it isn't bad. I appreciate that in an effort like this the designers are trying to create a layout that works for lots of different scenarios, which is not an easy thing to do. There is also something to be said for standardization, even(especially) in layouts. If every project site is more or less the same, then when I'm browsing projects I know exactly where to look for the information I'm interested in. The same standardization can also contribute to a minimum level usability.

The Bad:
 The feed is annoying. I don't care about every comment on every project I follow(*cough* cern caption contest *cough*). I would like to know when somebody responds to my comments, or when a project owner updates a project or makes an announcement. My point is, if there is going to be a feed, it needs to be customizable. This is a project host site, so make it good at that. Don't try to add social networking stuff simply for the sake of social networking. If hackaday projects is a good project hosting site, the community will take care of the social networking stuff.
 The project recommendations that pop up after following a project are completely random. I would suggest either getting somebody to do a basic recommendation engine(or plugging one into the site), or just getting rid of the feature for now.

The Ugly:
 Off the top of my head I can't think of anything so bad as to call it ugly. On second thought, the "All Projects" page(http://hackaday.io/projects) is terrible, and for exactly one reason. Tell us how many pages of projects there are. It would also be nice to know how many projects.

Additional Observations:
 Comments in general are problematic from a project perspective. Everybody with a project on hackaday wants to see the comments of encouragement and congratulations, but for things like technical discussion and feedback a comment section isn't really ideal.
In response to the seven things outlined in http://hackaday.com/2015/02/18/show-me-the-data-hackaday-io-year-01/ under "so what's next?":

1. It is what it is. I would encourage the developers to concentrate on quality though. I personally would rather wait longer for a feature that didn't have bugs.

2. I think this is the one place where hackaday projects could really stand out. I have yet to see anything that I feel does this well. I actually spent quite a bit of time working on problems dealing with collaboration in my last job. We had a large team operating in multiple locations and working on multiple projects simultaneously. The ability to collaborate was a huge issue for us. Working on solutions for many of the problems we faced I realized that none of the currently available platforms even come close to providing everything needed.
 I would be glad to share what I learned through those experiences if there is any interest, but I do not believe this is the best medium to do so.

3. Content hosting is it's own giant can of worms, so I can sympathize. However, I disagree with the primary reason cited. "The existing ecosystem" is either a figment of somebody's imagination, or a synonym for github(and prior to that sourceforge). I think it's important to make a distinction between a project host and a code repository. Github is an OK  code repository, as was sourceforge. They are both terrible places to host a project.
 I would strongly encourage Hackaday not to become tightly coupled with github, or any other repository host for that matter. The smart thing to do would be to create a modular system that allows the use of many repository providers, and quick development of integration components to use with those providers. This same strategy can apply to other aspects of hackaday projects as well, which may become important if one were to want to link to things like https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/XXXXXX or http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:XXXXXX or similar resources from other providers.

4. I agree with the value of openness, but like all things it can cause issues. I like the given example of starting a project from scratch is a good one, because it applies to me. I recently commented on somebody else's project, and cited some things I have learned from a similar project of my own. I have not posted that project online because I do not feel that it is ready for public consumption.
 I would love to be able to have a place to host that project(and others) though, because I feel like it would help me to be more productive as I tend to jump around and sometimes waste a lot of time doing the same work because I didn't document my work well and forgot why I had done something.
 It would also make it much easier to publish projects once they are ready for the public if everything is already on the site instead of having to enter in project logs, upload files, etc.

5. I am a fan of APIs. This could be immensely valuable both to the hackaday crew and to the users of hackaday projects. APIs allow integration, and being able integrate project hosting with other things could be huge. This site attracts technically capable individuals by nature. The smartest(and in all fairness, possibly most terrible) thing hackaday could do is see what the community can make of hackaday.

6. I haven't hosted a project on hackaday yet so I don't know about this. As a user though, it would be nice to not have the BoM make the page huge, and to be able to download it as a .csv or something.

7. If there's one thing I have in abundance it's ideas. Frequently they lead to me being in a situation where I ask myself "How did I get into this situation?" or "What was I thinking?", but I digress. I would love to discuss some of these ideas, but such discussion would be quite heady and a comment section wouldn't really be the ideal medium. Perhaps there should be a forum thread(or even an entire forum) dedicated to this subject.

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Aleksandar Bradic wrote 8 days ago point

Hey Johnny,

Thanks for the detailed feedback! You wouldn't believe how valuable this is to us (though that doesn't mean we'll act right away on all of it :P)

Regarding the feed - This should already be pretty customizable - you can pick what you want/don't want to show up in the feed using the menu on the right side of My Feed/Global feed selector. The problem is that it's not *persistent* at the moment, as soon as you navigate away from the page, configuration is lost. We have that fix in and it should be going out live with the next 1-2 weeks.

"All Projects" page - agree. It's terrible. To be honest, the reason for that is that it's something that has been designed when we had 0 projects in the system and never been touched since. Making it actually usable is high on our priority list and hopefully it will get better soon.

"Collaboration" side of things - your feedback and any lessons learned on this will be incredibly valuable. I'll reach out to you directly regarding this (and other ideas you might have) next week. 

thanks!

.Alek

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Johnny B. Goode wrote 2 days ago point

Thanks for the response Aleksandar. Glad to hear about the fix to make the feed selectors persistent. You and the rest of the crew keep up the good work, and I look forward to hearing from you.

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Johnny B. Goode wrote 41 minutes ago point

It would appear that the issue of the feed selectors being persistent has been fixed. Thanks!

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Jarrett wrote 10 days ago point

I have gotten a notification email for a reply to one of my comments (here: https://hackaday.io/project/4069/log/14132/discussion-18449)

My preferences have all emails turned off.

This seems a little bit inconsistent, as I didn't get a reply to my comment below on this project. I've also gotten an email about this comment https://hackaday.io/project/3232-not-your-fathers-edm/log/13367-well-that-was-dumb/discussion-13220 on Jan 28th, so this seems to be a long-standing issue.

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Jarrett wrote 9 days ago point

Oh my. And emails for all replies to my Stack post that can't be turned off.

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Jasmine wrote 8 days ago point

Sorry about that! I'll put in a ticket regarding the email notifications getting loose when they are unwanted. 

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davedarko wrote 11 days ago point

[bug][feed][low] When pages are posted to the feed, it looks like all the elements like <hr>, <img> and new line characters are replaced with nothing (meaning ''). This way you can get some pretty bizarre texts like 'CHANGE LOG2015-02-17 FIRST DRAFTINTRODUCTIONWhile I was looking on eBay' - would be cool if they could be replaced with ' - ' instead to make it more readable.

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herrkami wrote 11 days ago point

It really happens often that changes e.g. to the description do not
apply! I write something into the description, then click 'Publish' and
it simply disappears! That is awfully annoying! I loose a lot of time by
that crap. Besides, I'm unable to update my Project... Is this a known
issue? Is there something I do wrong or at least something I can do to
make this stop? I use firefox. 

Edit: It works with Chromium
Edit Edit: It seems to be an issue with vimperator. Unabling vimperator seemingly fixes the bug. Sorry for complaining so quickly, but maybe this message helps someone else who gets trapped here.

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PointyOintment wrote 10 days ago point

You might as well install the extension Lazarus, just to avoid losing what you've typed in case anything like that happens in the future.

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esot.eric.wazhung wrote 8 days ago point

WOOT! You rock PO!

And here, I was trying to get it in my thick-skull to type these things up in a word-processing program, first, then paste...

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Tonkabot wrote 11 days ago point

I find the UI pretty useless here.   I 'followed' several projects that look interesting, yet I have no idea how to see what projects I am following, nor do I have any idea how to find any of these projects I am following to see how they are doing.

Maybe I followed a bunch of dead projects that never have postings or something, but I should be able to see a list of projects I am following, and to jump to any of those projects easily.

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davedarko wrote 11 days ago 1 point

There is a list of projects you are following on your profile page http://hackaday.io/hacker/46847 - if they post an update or log to a project, you should see them in your personal feed. There is a timestamp for "last updated" on every project, so you can see if it's "dead" or not. 

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PointyOintment wrote 12 days ago point

[bug] [instructions? formatting? HTML generation?]

Step 3 of #ATTiny85 does NTSC over VHF's instructions is misaligned, both on the main page and on the instructions page. I looked at the HTML and didn't see anything different about it, so I have no idea what's going on.

screenshots

Chrome 40.0.2214.111 on Mac OS X 10.9.5

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davedarko wrote 12 days ago 1 point

It's because it is only one line of text :) I just checked by editing the div and make the text longer.

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PointyOintment wrote 12 days ago point

Oh, Step 2's only one line! Yep; replicated. Not my project, though, so I can't do anything about it. And it's still a bug.

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davedarko wrote 12 days ago point

Indeed :)

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CNLohr wrote 12 days ago point

How do I fix this?

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PointyOintment wrote 12 days ago point

Well, the workaround is to just put more text in Step 2. Apart from that I guess you'll have to wait for the website developers to fix it, and I think that may take a while because it's a very low-priority bug, IMO (hardly breaks anything). On the other hand, it could turn out to be very easy to fix, in which case it might be done today.

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Benchoff wrote 11 days ago 1 point

Well it's not getting done today. Presidents' day. I'm feeding it to the devs.

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Jason Roesslein wrote 13 days ago point

Getting a 502 Bad Gateway error if I delete all of the tag suggestions and then try to save profile.  Random bug.  Thought I'd feed it back.  Cheers, and thanks for making this site more awesome.

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Peter McCloud wrote 15 days ago 4 points

I don't know if this has already been suggested, but I think it'd be useful to link projects together in a parent/child or master/sub manner.  It can get unwieldy to document a larger project or it may be useful to compartmentalize certain aspects according to interests.

Perhaps the the child or master projects could then also be listed in the side bar while viewing the current project.

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PointyOintment wrote 13 days ago 1 point

I guess you could do that with the links section, but I agree it would be better to have a dedicated section for that, to make it clear what's going on.

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Benchoff wrote 12 days ago 3 points

That's a great suggestion.

Something like a 'folder' at the top level of the 'my projects' page that goes to sub-projects? That's an idea. A master page for the parent, with individual projects below that? I'll feed that to the devs.

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davedarko wrote 12 days ago 1 point

I would love to have that! Would be cool tool to organize the projects shown on the hackers page, too, especially when you have more than 5 projects. Make a folder like "projects shown on profile" where you can choose the top 5 (max or less) out of a list of all projects. 

I also would use this to post and organize smaller projects I currently post as a page.

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davedarko wrote 16 days ago 1 point

and a smaller "bug", now that comments are on multiple pages, when somebody replies to a 4th page comment, you don't get to that by the link from the feed.

http://hackaday.io/project/37-feedback-hackaday-projects/discussion-18173

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davedarko wrote 16 days ago 1 point

Would be cool that, when someone adds bigger pictures to logs like schematics, that there would be a link as well to take a look on the fullsize image. An example: http://hackaday.io/project/4154-bench-power-supply/log/13968-potential-change-in-design-goals

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Kert wrote 16 days ago point

Overclock.net (a PC forum I often frequent) has handled it in my opinion a nice way. When you insert a picture in there the full size one goes to your "personal album" and you can pick three different predetermined sizes of thumbnails into the post, largest of which is 1000 pixels wide. There is also an optional tag of showing it right away in full size but it must be done manually and is not considered a good habit. Granted - some limit on the image size might be reasonable, I just find 2 MB a bit on the low side as when I shoot full size jpg with my camera I get a bit under 6 MB and as such need to manually downscale any picture I want to insert in here. 

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Jarrett wrote 16 days ago 4 points

In terms of new project discovery, the top project page should default to "recently updated", instead of "most skulled", which is a positive feedback loop (this is bad).

So this: http://hackaday.io/projects

Should actually default to this: http://hackaday.io/projects/sort/updated

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jaromir.sukuba wrote 16 days ago 1 point

+1. My thoughts exactly.

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Jasmine wrote 16 days ago 2 points

For new project discovery we are going to update it so we remember the last sort preference you selected. 

There's been some discussion about this internally, and as All Project page is the landing page for many new visitors, we do want them to see some of the more mature projects. This means that we'll probably stick to most skulled as default. We may add trending projects at the top later on.

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Kert wrote 17 days ago point

Is it possible to share files through hackaday (say, CAD drawings, for example for build instructions) or should some external link used instead to the files located somewhere else, like, for example CrabCAD?

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davedarko wrote 16 days ago 1 point

That's not possible, sharing files would be by linking to github or other filesharing sites, like you said. 

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