pick and place definitely helps, we're looking to upgrade our mini one and then get a better over, the chinese ones are getting super cheap now
@charliex just started woking on the 2011 layer one badge
https://wiki.hackerspace.pl/projects:zsun-wifi-card-reader) rather than getting pcb from somewhere?What do you guys think of repurposing hardware like the zsun (
have to get back to non-badge job (the one that actually pays me)
alusion, it depends on your goal for a badge. a badge just for the sake of one is meh. but if it's to learn, or show off something neat, go for it
I'll bring a spare zsun to hack on and test your firmware :)
lots of thru hole?
my badge idea is based off piratebox / usb dead drops but with mixed reality flair
alusion zsun is half the size of raspberry pi 0, me likey
if anyone needs to do badge repairs or work at defcon, WP will have tools (irons, hot air, reflow, through-hole desoldering, microscope, oscilloscope, PSU, DSA, etc) in our room.
@true -- badge creation is more like art ... creating for the enjoyment of creating, and for watching others enjoy using/hacking/etc them ... IMO ... copying another design might be faster, but looses a lot of the core of #badgelife ...I agree with
Thank you, to all of the people who make badges, and #badgelife possible. You rock my socks!
@Karl Koscher should we drop the video?
sure, why not
@alusion depends on whether you want to to integration or design
Hyr0n, HHV is packed, we have booze :) but yes HHV is good too
I don't have much access to fab equipment, my local hackerspace hasnt finished moving to new place yet D:
@Sujith Anandan it's really not that difficult, as long as the pen doesn't complete the circuit. for some ciritical designs we used pieces of tape to cover the battery
i make badges because joe grand is such a nice guy, he told me one day i'd gt tired of it too though
would love for badge meetup at nullspace or design lab tho
well nullspace would have to come out of storage first ;)
Well we got another question for the badgelife crew: "good Q to answer here: "I heard that a bunch of badges are being created this year because 1057's badge got cancelled.. is that true?""
nullspace should come out of storage
@Benchoff FAKE NEWS
I don't think groups care about making a badge because someone else isn't making a badge.
yah-- design was started long before the DEFCON announcement
only when it finds new gigs, in the meantime nullspace north still exists
DEF CON announced badge issues mid-june. That isn't enough time to make badges in any real quantity
@Karl Koscher AWESOME!!
Seconded what Karl Koscher says
for many of the badgemakers that annoucement came as a surprise too
Crypty McCryptoFace the XOR cyrpto god
I think everyone including those that are making badges got surprised about the badge issues at defcon. I know I was.
badgelife and defcon don't really have much overlap at all
Is the badge maker for the one inspired by The Diamond Age here?
I cranked the LEDs to 11 in that video, so you can sorta see the power regulators struggling to keep up
but it didn't crash!
we have tried many times to reach out to defcon to get some sorta advanced notice on what they badge would be like so we could integrate our design with the main badge
yah- was half suprised, 1 badge life has taught me anything can happen to fuck up production and 2. ive heard lots about the Defcon badge issues in the past
they never once responded
i still have boxes of cheap 18650s in hte house, waiting for a fire to break out any day
theyre usually crazy busy
what I need to do is observe you pro badge makers make one from scratch
would relieve a lot of anxiety about getting into this stuff and not wasting parts
nsl has boxes and boxes of smd gear and equipment
I would def have 6 months to spare if I raised enough money for my badge idea.
@Hyr0n just do it in essence. :D
Stencils are a must period.
smd is also easy to work on. if you haven't done it before, find us and we'll teach you.
The ANDnXOR panel at LayerOne this year on their badge was fantastic... I learned a lot and got the itch.
through hole is painful for hand assembly
true- draws blood
a proper stencil press as well as stencil is also a godsend
a stencil press eh?
@The Toymakers (tymkrs) I disagree with stencils
@charliex what is the press you like? :D
though we did buy a cheap chinese one this year, and the one we made last minute out of MDF and a couple of door hinges out performed it
@true 'find us, we'll teach you' Can I bring whiskey?
I have a cutting machine.
Okay, gotta jump off. this is awesome though, so grateful you guys like what we all work on and cant wait to drink with you all at the con'
What kind of question is, 'can I bring whiskey?'
@bitstr3m 500 badges, 120 parts?
cya at DC !
@The Toymakers (tymkrs) ok on that ratio stencils is a must
Hands cramped like you wouldn't believe
OH yeah- thru hole is great, but ive been cut by badges
also using the wrong solder paste is a bad idea for badges, esp if doing hand assy/people wearing them
Have fun all, nice seeing chat from those we chat with on twitter!
I gotta run this has been a blast see you all at the con
we have a through hole part this year
luckily we block it from poking you with a LiPo battery ;)
and hopefully it wont poke the lipo battery - BOOM
AND we're snipping the leads
shhh yess... it will be fine :P
hopefully no badge fires
@MrRobotBadge "What kind of question is..." A subtle hint at bribery
Shut up and take my booze!
AFAIK there has only been one LiPo fire at DEF CON, and it wasn't badge-related
only small badge fires allowed
Badge sales is also a hot topc
Hey, so you can get 0604 blasting caps on a reel. Just FYI.
those vishay EPICs?
I have to run too...thanks for coming badgelife people!
we'll be posting a transcript in a bit
thats what i call feedback then
It was a blast, thanks all!
@Richard Hogben CPV is missing
@Richard Hogben: right now there's not much there, but: https://hackaday.io/project/25893-the-2017-crypto-and-privacy-village-badge