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LibreSOC & TinyTapeout pictures @FSiC2024

yann-guidon-ygdesYann Guidon / YGDES wrote 06/23/2024 at 01:36 • 2 min read • Like

We talk a lot about architectures and semiconductors.

At the FSiC2024 conference in Paris, I saw real integrated circuits and took pictures, including TinyTapeout chips and the LibreSOC samples/prototypes.

I have uploaded some of them on Wikipedia to contribute to the Libre-SOC page.

And here Thorsten showing some TT samples in bare die and QFN package.

And one board demonstrated by @matt venn  !

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Dylan Brophy wrote 06/23/2024 at 03:54 point

Have you tried any services like TinyTapeout?  Seems really cool, but not sure what the limitations are, or how it goes in practice.

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Yann Guidon / YGDES wrote 06/23/2024 at 03:58 point

I haven't used TT (yet).

Too few/slow I/O is a killer.

Fortunately eFabless expects new Caravel "Panamax" with 64 GPIO in QFP format !!!

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Dylan Brophy wrote 06/23/2024 at 06:24 point

That is exciting!  Yea, I saw the "50Mhz max clock, 37 IO (or whatever it is)", and considered that I may as well use an FPGA.  Also don't love QFN.  QFP is good though!  Excited to see the custom chip making take off.

I was thinking of ways to make some tiny, detailed parts (perhaps involving circuitry) at home, hopefully one day we can make the ICs ourselves.  I can think of some ways this may be possible.  Would be an interesting project.

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Yann Guidon / YGDES wrote 06/23/2024 at 13:43 point

Yes, FPGA are more practical on many aspects, for now :-) They have their advantages, you can modify the design, select a suitable package among tens of options, you have a great performance/price. So you can prototype, iterate fast...

But the pride of having one's own silicon chip with a personal design, it's not comparable.

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Dylan Brophy wrote 06/23/2024 at 15:24 point

That would make sense.  It is certainly on my bucket list.

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Yann Guidon / YGDES wrote 06/23/2024 at 15:26 point

@Dylan Brophy on mine too, obviously :-)

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