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8042 clock

Using a keyboard controller MCU from old PCs

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The 8042 MCU is related to the 8048 and can be used for similar purposes.

Another clock?

There is nothing particularly special about this clock, except perhaps that is is built from a 8042 microcontroller chip (henceforth MCU) salvaged from a very old PC. The most modern component is the integrated serial display which keeps the component count down.

Why did I embark on this project when I could have written this for a modern PIC or AVR MCU, which would be cheap enough and consume less power?

  • I wanted to get back into the game and get up to speed with advances in MCU technology since I started decades ago. See my discourse in the next section.
  • I have lots of chips of this era, pulled off PC motherboards. So I can take chances with them and not feel sad destroying something I bought.
  • I wanted to do something substantial with these chips. There are a few pages on the Internet, for example DevSter and this video where people have got this MCU to work, and then were satisfied after getting LEDs to flash. The most complex one I saw ran a scrolling display. 
  • I wanted to push the envelope of these old chips and show that even with old technology you can achieve a low component count by design.
  • I wanted to do something not run-of-the-mill. Anybody can wire up an Arduino to a serial display and write clock firmware in C. For this I needed to get low down with assembler and I already had most of the code from a previous project.

I believe constraints are good for learning to problem solve; they make you flex your mental muscles more.

Note that although I have designed a clock, the circuit can in fact be used for other purposes, it's all shaped by the firmware. You could make a metronome,  a period timer or something else.

I will be putting logs of milestones in the log section and this details section will describe the results. So I may update the particulars if they change.


Advances in microcontrollers

This is my point of view and summarises the improvements since I began hacking hardware. After reviewing the history you may appreciate how much easier MCUs are to work with now compared to in the past. If you just want to see the project you can skip to the next section 8042 family.

Semiconductor logic technology

The original 8042 used NMOS logic. This was already an improvement over PMOS logic which required higher voltages so interfacing with TTL had become easier. However NMOS logic has now been supplanted by CMOS logic which contributes to some of the advantages below.

Power consumption

MCUs of that era drew tens of milliamps. This obviously limited battery operation. Nowadays MCUs can draw microamps in quiescent mode. So battery and solar cell operation become possible. Cue the rise of IoT devices. This partly offsets concerns about the power consumption of lots of these devices in consumer hands.

Power handing

The MCUs of the past could only drive a small number of TTL unit loads, so interface chips were needed if you wanted to drive loads. Now MCUs are capable of driving higher currents...

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  • 1 × 8042 Microcontroller
  • 1 × 2764 EPROM
  • 1 × LED (optional) LED
  • 1 × 1 kΩ resistor (optional) Resistor
  • 1 × 6 or 12 MHz crystal Crystal

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  • Marking project as completed

    Ken Yap11/27/2018 at 06:03 0 comments

    I built a version of the clock on perfboard, this time using a real 2764 EPROM, see the photo in the details or gallery.

    I have nothing good to say about perfboard. It is not a serious circuit board technology except for small circuits. The main difficulty is getting good solder joints with flying wires. Stripboard is only slightly better and has its own drawbacks. The only reason I used perfboard is because I had a last one lying around from decades ago and I decided to use it up. Certainly I won't be getting any more.

    I got the clock to boot and show the time but not advance. Also there were unreliable joints which caused the clock to stop working if I wiggled the board.

    I consider the point of the project proven and won't be doing anyting more with this design so I'll mark this project as completed. Time to release the breadboard space and move on to other MCUs.

  • Firmware and schematics have been released

    Ken Yap10/31/2018 at 22:37 0 comments

    The time setting buttons and brightness control (both buttons pressed) are now working on the breadboard.

    I have released the firmware and schematics at Github, see the project links.

    There won't be any more planned design changes but I will keep the project ongoing until I successfully build a production board and perhaps make a one-chip version by programming a 8742, after which I'll mark it completed.

    Presentation is important! Project boxes don't hack it. Plastic looks so nerdy. I may have to take up woodworking to build housings for my projects so that they are acceptable gifts. I may have to move to the seaside to collect driftwood. 😃

  • Got the time setting buttons working

    Ken Yap10/28/2018 at 10:00 0 comments

    I compared the routine to the one for the plasma clock project and it's essentially the same. Then I thought to measure the voltage on the T0 and T1 pins. It was floating, and looks like there is no internal pullup resistor inside the chip as I had assumed. I added a couple of pullup resistors to the circuit and the buttons now work as designed. There pullup resistors must have been already present in the plasma clock.

    Next to test that pressing both buttons together will cycle the brightness.

  • I get the display working

    Ken Yap10/27/2018 at 13:28 0 comments

    I got my TM1637 display today. 😃

    I wired it up to my Arduino Uno, checking with a continuity meter that the connections were correct. I have learnt not to trust looking at the pin positions because it's easy to see off-by-one. I then ran the test sketch in the blog article which implements a 4-digit counter. It works great. This provided a baseline so I knew the display worked and the serial protocol was the one published.

    I wired it up to my breadboard, again checking the connections with a continuity meter. A mistake like swapping the power lines, would blow the display and set me back a few weeks, the time required to receive another display from eBay. And I would be kicking myself.

    Turned it on and got scrambled segments. ☹️ So I went back to the bit-banging code and compared my assembler code to the C original. I tried simplifying the code by commenting out sections. One thing I tried was to set all 7 segments on. However the result was 6 lit up and this was different for each digit. Aha, I must be missing one data bit in the serial transmission. Looked at the code, and sure enough, I had missed one final clock transition in my code, all of two lines of assembler. This is always a hazard when translating code from one language to another.

    I took the usual celebratory photo which you can see in the Details section, showing 12:35, not long after switch on, as the initial time is 12:34:56 (seconds not displayed). 😃

    The time setting switches don't work yet. I have made some large changes here from the plasma clock project so that's not surprising. I'll have to go back to the simulator to debug this. But enough for the day, better stop while I'm ahead.

  • Waiting for serial inteface LEDs

    Ken Yap10/24/2018 at 05:31 0 comments

    They should arrive this week. Buying from eBay means you need to have several irons in the fire so that you don't get bored while waiting for parts to arrive, so I've been working on other projects too. I'm going to make this project public later today anyway. Since I have the blink LED going at 1 Hz I'm pretty sure that part of the code is being executed. The only part I'm not sure of is whether the bit-banging code to transmit to the serial interface LED array works but I'm sure I can fix it if it doesn't.

  • Current consumption

    Ken Yap10/21/2018 at 14:31 0 comments

    I measured the current consumption of the 8042 MCU by inserting a milliamp meter in the +5V supply to the chip. It confirms reports of other experimenters that it's scandalously high compared to modern MCUs. I measured around 80 mA. I only sampled a few chips—no time to test every one—but there was little variation across the NMOS chips by age or manufacturer, or whether it was a ROM or EPROM part. However a couple of chips labelled 80C42 made by NEC only drew about 8 mA, far better. Whether NMOS or CMOS has a greater impact on the current draw.

    You won't feel the difference by touch; 80 mA means 400 mW dissipation, barely noticeable.

    So, generally not a MCU you want to use when power is limited. But you should look at the whole application. If you are driving heavy power devices then the amount taken by the MCU may be insignificant.

  • More hardware and code modifications

    Ken Yap10/18/2018 at 04:05 0 comments

    I decided to put in a brightness button connected to a port 2 bit, to cycle the brightness levels. When I powered up the breadboard the LED blinked at the correct rate but didn't turn off completely; looked like some extra bit changes were happening.  Were the port bit AND and OR instructions in the set doing the right thing? Seems so, bit banging is exactly their purpose and other people used them with no problems. So I added a conditional section to my code, which is a standalone Blink program, made another EEPROM and tested it. Turned off the LED cleanly. I looked at my code again, and saw that I was reading  port 2 at one point to get the state of the brightness button. Long story short, the read didn't return high for the other bits as I thought. I removed the read and the LED blinked cleanly. But how will I get a brightness button now?

    So I decided I would overload the hour and minute buttons so that pressing both simultaneously would cycle the brightness level. Simultaneous means both buttons down within the debounce periond (100 ms) of each other so it won't affect single button functions. Tested this in the simulator and got it to work after some iterations. So now there is no need to read port 2 and I've saved a button.

    Added a discharge diode for the reset capacitor so that it will be ready for the next power on quickly.

    Now to wait for the serial line LED displays to arrive.

  • I draw my circuit using Kicad

    Ken Yap10/18/2018 at 03:54 0 comments

    Never let an opportunity to learn go to waste, I say. I installed Kicad 5.0 on my system and started using it to draw the circuit. The learning curve is steep, I have to consult the Internet for puzzling problems, but I get the hang of it. Being a stickler for a neat diagram, I modify it a lot to make it neater. Bus lines in Kicad are great.

    I will be using a 2816 EEPROM for testing. This has 24 pins instead of the 28 of the 2764, so on a paper copy of the diagram I write the correct pin numbers in pencil. Even so I make some mistakes that I correct after some testing with a continuity meter.

  • I test my MCUs and melt one chip

    Ken Yap10/18/2018 at 03:50 0 comments

    I don't have any 6 or 12 MHz crystals but I have active crystal packages (containing the active components to oscillate when power is applied). I also don't have the 22 pF capacitors to go on both sides of the crystal. So I will have to order crystals and capacitors for production, they are cheap enough.

    In the event, it was good that I used an active oscillator, because I added a binary divider IC (74LS74) so that I could use 6 and 3 MHz clocks to check my MCUs.

    All of my MCUs work at 6 MHz. Some can be clocked to 12 MHz.

    There was one that didn't blink the LED when powered up. Then I noticed the power supply voltage was drooping. I touched the chip. Ouch! It must have been molten silicon inside and soon the smoke inside would have escaped. The chip was not labelled 8042 or any of the other numbers, just read Fastest BIOS chip. So it could have been another chip, maybe an 8051, or even a bespoke chip just for that motherboard. After all the interface to the x86 CPU has only to be at the register level, and the interface to the keyboard at the serial line level. I probably killed this chip, but never mind, I don't know what it might be and will never know. Anyway heads up, check that your chip is from the 8042 family if you don't want to let the smoke out of the chip.

  • I dust off my breadboard

    Ken Yap10/18/2018 at 03:39 0 comments

    So I brought my breadboard out of storage and prepared a whole bunch of jumpers from telephone wire in my junk box. I have 4 cm and 6 cm length of various colours. I repurposed a PC power supply as the 5 V supply.

    Arrgh, I need longer lengths of jumper wire. Although I can make the 6 cm wires reach if I "fly" over the IC, I should really route them on the side so that I can easily plug and unplug ICs so that i can test all the MCUs I have. So I made some 8 cm and 10 cm lengths too.

    The breadboard space gets used up quickly, so I've also ordered a larger one for future projects.

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