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More paint & glue
06/30/2025 at 08:58 • 0 commentsNoted the holes quickly fill with oil until there's no more ventilation. They have to be cleaned with alcohol, hot water, & a brush.
The access panel started showing deformation near the bottom, where it's cooler. The nose started showing deformation in the usual places. These new areas got more epoxy beads.
The hottest part of the nose started warping & delaminating, so it got CA glue. Lions are satisfied anything besides metal is going to have a limited lifespan.
After much contemplation, decided to try spray painting the heat shield. Brushed paint is no longer sold in any reasonable quantity & it's super expensive. The heat shield would be a matter of lots of masking tape & touching up with a sharpie. It's important to tape over the entire downwind side, to defeat wind. This level of masking still wasn't enough for the layered structure. Quite a bit leaked between the layers.
91% alcohol got a small amount of paint off. Sadly, sharpies dry out on contact with HT PLA. Letting them rest for 30 minutes between small touchups can make some progress. The PLA was oily, sooty & badly printed enough that more than a certain quality of painting made no difference.
It's really time for a better painting solution than homeless despot & sharpies.
Initially noted how the black ship highlighted the nose smoke. Otherwise, all the other stuff in the complete diorama hid the crimes.
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Figured out how to use the launch tower with the booster model to burn incense sticks upside down. The ashes aren't so easy to clean.
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Black paint
06/24/2025 at 21:57 • 0 commentsIt really popped with the black paint. If only lions could afford the real estate to store multicolored filament.
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Melted HT PLA
06/21/2025 at 19:17 • 0 commentsIt came to pass that HT PLA melted in the same trouble spot as PETG, though still not in the nose.
There was some static stress from the chopstick pressing in, but not in the exact place which melted.
It was back to good old epoxy. Used the knife & gravity to try to build up a bead where it melted. The best way to epoxy it might be to masking tape the opening & let it sit facing down on the masking tape.
That area still isn't the hottest area. It's believed the holes create a shielding layer of gas. The solid band doesn't have the shielding gas.
The mane changes were lowering the heat break from 50mm to 45mm so less gas could be getting sucked in. Then, the big solid band was flipped from the smaller removable side to the bigger fixed side.
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Flipped it around
06/20/2025 at 00:03 • 0 commentsMade a new model which loads from the tile side instead of the window side. This way, it can be mounted on the tower the same way it lands in real life. It has to fly over the tower from the west & back up into the tower with the heat shield facing east.
After many burns, the nose becomes an oily mess. The highest temperature was found to be the top row of windows in the nose. That gets to 100C.
Sadly, polymaker HT-PLA seems to be discontinued. There are HT PLA's from protopasta, for 4x the price of normal PLA. The lion kingdom impulse bought 1 last roll of polymaker which was still less than protopasta despite having $10 of shipping & taxes. It's not likely enough for future plans but it might cover all incense burner improvements. There was an idea of printing motor mounts & maybe even a motor out of it.
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Polymaker HT PLA
06/09/2025 at 01:17 • 0 commentsThe mighty polymaker HT PLA rated for 150C showed promising results. There was no melting in any of the trouble spots, after several cones. It's more brittle & feels more like clay than normal PLA. It prints at 230C while normal PLA clogs above 220C. The 1kg roll is shorter than normal PLA because it's denser. The 1kg roll is twice the price of the cheapest PLA.
The decision was made to try the 40mm diameter again with 2mm walls & no reinforcing structures.
The chopsticks got reprinted in HT PLA. Not easy to get the cone in the narrower diameter but it looks much better. HT PLA held up to the narrower diameter.
A caulking plug holds the engine section on instead of screws.
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Return of epoxy
05/25/2025 at 18:53 • 0 commentsTried a clear epoxy in the channels. It might not be hard enough, but JB weld was more expensive. Lions are curious how much force is actually being exerted on the melting parts.
The nozzle clogged near the bottom of the nose, leading to some ugly welds.
Burned a few cones & added a wire to support the chopsticks.
Then the nose melted & the epoxy reinforced sections melted slightly less than before.
The lion kingdom's 5 year old roll of PETG ran out during the nose, after the nozzle clog. The new roll had a lower printing temperature & a lower melting temperature it seems. There's no point in using PETG if it's the same melting temperature as PLA.
The next step is going to be heat resistant PLA. The problem is heat resistant PLA reviews are all sponsored & they're not allowed to show the melting point of competing materials. They're only allowed to show a PETG of unknown melting point melting faster than HT-PLA, but as shown, modern PETG's can melt more easily than PLA.
Given the history of 3D printing being little more than a search for higher temperature PLA, if HT PLA really worked, there would already be no other type of PLA.
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Moar stringers
05/20/2025 at 06:02 • 0 commentsWas thinking it would be nice if it slowly rotated left & right when it burned. It would only need to actuate 1 chopstick. It would provide some more entertainment but take more room.
Went with a full orthogrid behind the most melted parts. Either way, the melting seems reasonably solved. Noted it's a very gradual melting which exponentially expands after many burns. It's always going to gradually melt, but the stringer patterns seem to have extended the lifetime just enough. The heat break & the masking tape are other areas which are going to limit the lifetime.
It completely dropped the 1st layer of bridging in the nose but managed to do better in the cylinder.
The front was sitting a bit proudly.
The nose held up better but the cylinder was unchanged from just the vertical stringers.
The mane problem was shrinking of the catch point area. That had shrinkage on the edges.
Thinking epoxy channels on the edges should fix the mane trouble spots while the nose is already fixed. The common reason for the melting is the large number of small windows. If they were replaced by big holes & epoxy was applied all around, it wouldn't melt.
Lavender & full moon are the only good ones, locally.
The chopsticks have deformed to the point of making it harder to empty the ashes. They might become PETG with a long weld for the hinge. Stuff which melts as slowly as that might be easier to just melt back into position.
Surprised there isn't a single part adhesive in filament form. The printer would extrude it & it would cure into something heat resistant. There is no UV cured filament. Resins have higher melting points but are expensive.
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Melty McMeltface
05/15/2025 at 23:54 • 0 comments
A full metal ship would be ideal. Home SLS printing is a real mess, requiring powder removal, a glove box, respirator. JLC3DP said roughly $172 + $40 shipping to do the 50mm ship & chopsticks in metal. Realistically, the whole chopsticks would have to be metal to dissipate the heat of a metal ship. The whole thing would of course be reduced to 40mm & made more realistic. The weight of steel would require beefing up the tower. It really has to be more practical to spend that kind of money. There are other battles.The next rung down is a metal combustor liner. That would still require an exhaust hole on top & a way to attach the liner to the exterior.
The next rung is an easily fabricated, easily installed sacrificial layer inside the artistic exterior. Both structures would be PETG. The exhaust still has to get out. It almost requires scrapping all the openings except the nose hole & vents below the cone.
Noted deformation in the chopsticks. The key need is an air layer inside the exterior. The part of the nose supported by the fins held up better than the any other part. The extra material seems to absorb the heat or reinforce it.
Any plastic ship is going to be as consumable as the incense itself.
There are aquarium pumps which could inject air inside the ship & maybe even create film cooling with the right printed nozzle.
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Another PETG ship loaded with stringers emerged. This one had many modeling errors but would show any effect from the stringers. The trend has been adding more PETG. More mass can absorb more heat. The final solution may be 5mm thick walls of solid PETG. It would still be cheaper than metal.
Attempts to drill out stock incense cones with the electric drill were a failure. It creates too much torque. Nibbling at it with the manual drill is the only way.
As with the last 3 PETG prints, yet another slight reduction in the melting but still melting in the same spots. The next step would be a full orthogrid on the inside of just the trouble spots, but the overhangs could be difficult & there's not enough room in the nose without making it solid PETG.
The linear stringers tend to bend in their wide axis.
The nose stringers tend to bend in their short axis.
It seems the stock backflow cones create more melting because they get hotter while the drilled cones burn slower & cooler. Cones with no drilling make the most heat because they have the most fuel.
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More melting
05/14/2025 at 04:45 • 0 commentsProgressive melting continued over many burns. A pool of hot gas forms under the enclosed section of nose, melting the highest windows. The windowed rear panel deforms quite a bit over time, despite the film cooling. The hot air gun can temporarily restore the melted parts.
There could be more stringers on the inside. It would be impossible to apply epoxy there. The inside of the nose is thinner than the cylinder.
There could be epoxy under all the windows. Then the windows could be manually drilled out again. It would be expensive.
A hole in the top probably wouldn't vent enough. Past experience showed it still pools.
Then there's CA gluing around all the trouble spots.
A little hole on top got it pooling slightly less behind the windows. The hole & CA glue might have slowed it down, but it still melted.
This whole PETG idea might be busted.
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The winners of a backflow incense assortment were Lily & Osmanthus.
Unfortunately, getting those affordably required ordering a bunch of awful flavors.
Lily is not sold separately but osmanthus is available for a price.