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• Improve 3.3V Rail with V1.2 + AP33772 Lib Completed

  CentyVin • 11/30/2023 at 06:20 • 0 comments

  Changes with V1.2 PicoPD:

  • Replace buck TPS62933 with LDO AP2204K-3.3. This will drop the total output current from 3A to 200mA. However, we get a much cleaner and more accurate 3V3 line to 0.5% (DeltaVout/Vout). Our internal ADC will happily accept this stable voltage. Lower dropout voltage means requesting PPS as low as 3.5V before messing up your ADC read scaling. Fortunately, the LDO output will still be stable, just less than 3.3V if the input is below 3.5V. The previous buck converter design will be unstable when the input voltage drops below 4V, causing the system to reset.
  • Reduce component count.

  Update on AP33772 library:

  • Multiple users have tested the library and it seems to be stable.
  • The latest release has included setMask and clearMask functions

• Refine PCB layout with V1.1

  CentyVin • 09/28/2023 at 06:53 • 0 comments

  Learning from the previous design, I have made some changes to the layout while keeping the schematic the same. Here are some main changes:
  

  • Highlight 0-ohm jumper resistor: To use the USB 2.0 header, remove these 2 jumpers. 
  • Highlight GND ports on the top layer
  • Thermal relief for the USB header: Easier to solder and desolder

  The next October 25th,2023 batch will be V1.1. You can make your own using the provided Gerber, else you can support me through Tindie PicoPD.

  
  

• AP33772 Library Release

  CentyVin • 09/03/2023 at 08:59 • 0 comments

  I think the library is now at a point where you can use it for most of your applications. As of right now, it feature:

  • Fix voltage and PPS voltage request
  • Voltage reading
  • Current reading
  • NTC temperature reading
  • Set parameter for NTC

  Examples are included to cover most of the use cases that I can think of. Feel free to create an issue or comment here if you have any questions about your specific need.

  Still missing the ability to edit Mask which will be updated soon. The library also does not support interrupt mode so there will be no self-feedback from the IC. I look forward to further testing.

  GitHub - AP33772-Cpp

  Tested with:

  • UGREEN 140W - PPS fully delivered <- Recommend
  • RavPower 90W - No PPS
  • Aergiatech 100W 4 Port - PPS does not work

• AP33772 Library in progress

  CentyVin • 09/02/2023 at 00:32 • 0 comments

  I have been working on the AP33772 library. As of right now, I have most of the basic functionality satisfied like:

  • Set voltage
  • Set max current
  • Set warning/safety value
  • Read voltage
  • Read current

  With 140W Ugreen GaN charger - PPS

  With BaseUS GaN2 Pro - PPS

  With RavPower PD Pioneer 90W - Non-PPS

• Second iteration - 1st batch order

  CentyVin • 08/30/2023 at 07:31 • 0 comments

  The 2nd iteration covers all the mistakes made in the previous one:

  •  5.1k Ohm termination on CC1 and CC2 to GND
  • QuadSPI flash
  • Crystal oscillator with 50Ohm ESR 
  • 1K series resistor to limit crystal oscillator drive
  • USB trace set to 90Ohm differential impedance

  Additional upgrade:

  • Breakout USB header to have extra D+/D- and 5V input
  • Blocking diode between 5V input and VBUS
  • Easier to press buttons

  
  

  Design challenges

  The initial design has USB D+/D- connected only to the USB-C. If using the USB-C only, the user has two options,

  • Connect to PC: programming and serial debugging, no USB PD.
  • Connect to USB brick: running existing code without the ability to flash or serial debug the code.

  All of this can be solved if you have an external flasher and debugger tool like Pico Probe using the SWD pins. Pico Probe works well with PlatformIO to compile and flash C++ code, but for MicroPython code using Throny, check out this method of packing your files into .uf2 and flash using PicoProbe. It is not as easy as just plug in your USB cable and flash it!

  What if we add extra header pins for the USB cable and a switch to select where the D+/D- comes from?

  The RP2040 has USB 2.0 hardware that is running at full speed. This means the fastest driver rise time is 4ns. FR4 propagation time is 6 inches/ns. We have a signal propagation distance of 24 inches over the 4ns rise time. If we are conservative and take 10% of the critical length, we have 2.4 inches of critical length that we can lose on impedance control. -> We have no problem losing impedance control over one 0 Ohm jumper 0402 resistor and one via.

  Now when adding the extra header, if not connected, we have a permanent trace stud on the D+/D- line. This stub can impact the signal by creating a reflection when the signal travels to the end of the stud and bounces back. Following this rule of thumb to calculate the max length of the stud and USB 2.0 Fullspeed @ 12Mbps, we have:

  maxStudLength (cm) = 0.75 / BitRate(Gbps) = 0.75 / 0.012(Gbps) = 62cm.

  62cm seems to be too long! However, if that is the case, we can have a permanent header sticking out at 1.4cm + (0.5cm for traces) without much of a reflection problem.

• First iteration - 1st batch order

  CentyVin • 08/30/2023 at 06:55 • 0 comments

  Once the first batch of the first design arrived. I was quite excited to plug it in and hope the red LED will turn on indicating that there is 5V power going into the buck converter. But nothing lights up. I also wasn't able to flash the board and run blink. A bit of debug shows that I have made some rookie mistakes:

  • No 5.1k Ohm termination on CC1 and CC2 to GND
  • Order DualSPI flash instead of QuadSPI flash
  • SPI flash decoupling capacitor is placed too far away from the IC
  • Crystal Oscillator has 80Ohm ESR instead of 50Ohm ESR recommended by Rasberry Foundation
  • No series resistor to limit crystal drive
  • USB trace is not set to 90Ohm differential impedance

  Another Hackaday member also raised the question of how can you debug the board while providing PD power. With the current design, there are only two methods:

  • Use a USB-C Splitter to have CC1 and CC2 routed between PicoPD and power brick, and have D+/D- routed between PC and PicoPD
  • Use PicoProbe to program via SWD, and just plug the power brick directly into PicoPD

  The AP33772 IC also can perform a "hard reset" which will cut off the power to the PicoPD temporarily. If "hard reset" is in the code, the device can stuck at a boot loop. To prevent this, a separate power supply is needed if the sole purpose is debugging. 

  ---> 2nd design iteration is coming

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